[RHCE] RHCE list: some stats

Jim Thompson rhce@trilug.org
Wed, 22 Jan 2003 11:45:43 -0800 (PST)


Hi all,

As of right now, we've got 44 people subscribed to the
RHCE list. Obviously, 44 people is probably too many
for a meetings-based study group. In our first set of
meetings we had about 8 regulars. I'm sure that not
all 44 folks subscribed to the list are planning on
attending, but even so..

My suggestion would be to call an actual first meeting
and let's see who shows up. From there, we can decide
some particulars: how often we meet, how many groups
we'll have, etc.

Just from perusing the recent threads, it looks like
most people were in favor of meeting at Rock's place -
Rock, do you want to schedule a tentative first
meeting there? If that's good for you, why not just
announce a first/general interest meeting and we'll be
able to get a better idea of how to proceed from
there.

Jim

--- Jon Carnes <jonc@nc.rr.com> wrote:
> Does anyone object to just jumping in and talking
> about the first topic
> (ala Scott Stancil's draft web outline for study)?  
> 
> Hardware and Installation
> 
>     * Partitioning (fdisk, utils to repartition
> existing)
>     * Boot loaders (lilo/grub and config files)
>     * Boot messages
>     * System startup scripts, /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit
>     * System runlevels
>     * System config files (xinetd, rc scripts, 
>       /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts, shell config
> scripts)...
> 
> Talking about organization is a lot of fun and all
> that, but I want to
> see how well this
> co-operative-at-a-distance-learning thing really
> works.
> 
> ===
> 
> I don't think we will need to know hardware
> compatibility for all
> hardware, but we might need to know where to look
> for hardware
> compatibility:
> http://hardware.redhat.com/hcl/
> 
> And how to find out existing Hardware Information -
> Red Hat has a
> chapter on using an existing Windows install to mine
> for System
> Information:
>
http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-8.0-Manual/install-guide/ch-x86-table.html
> 
> ===
> 
> We should all know the minimum disk space
> requirements for installation
> of various systems:
> 
> Personal Desktop - A personal desktop installation,
> including a
> graphical desktop environment, requires at least 1.5
> GB of free space.
> Choosing both the GNOME and KDE desktop environments
> requires at least
> 1.8 GB of free disk space.
> 
> Workstation - A workstation installation, including
> a graphical desktop
> environment and software development tools, requires
> at least 2.0 GB of
> free space. Choosing both the GNOME and KDE desktop
> environments
> requires at least 2.3 GB of free disk space.
> 
> Server - A server installation requires 1.3 GB for a
> minimal
> installation without X (the graphical environment),
> at least 1.4 GB of
> free space if all package groups other than X are
> installed, and at
> least 2.1 GB to install all packages including the
> GNOME and KDE desktop
> environments.
> 
> Custom - A Custom installation requires 400 MB for a
> minimal
> installation and at least 4.5 GB of free space if
> every package is
> selected.
> 
> And the types of basic applications to install in
> each of the above
> cases (which determines the amount of space needed
> for the install):
>
http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-8.0-Manual/install-guide/s1-steps-type.html
> 
> ===
> 
> I imagine that we'll need know how to install RH8.0
> various ways, like:
>  - boot from CD
>  - boot from local diskette
>  - boot from USB diskette
>  - ftp install
>  - nfs install
>
http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-8.0-Manual/install-guide/s1-steps-install-cdrom.html
> 
> http://www.redhat.com/download/howto_download.html
> 
> ===
> 
> And how to find out information during the install
> when things go awry. 
> Specifically how to use the Virtual the various
> switches/work-arounds
> for special circumstances like installing on a
> machine with a special HD
> adapter (one not included in the RH8.0 Anaconda).
> 
>
http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-8.0-Manual/install-guide/ch-guimode.html#S2-GUIMODE-VIRTUAL-CONSOLES
> 
> ===
> 
> Any comments, etc are welcome!  -- Jon Carnes
> 
> On Wed, 2003-01-22 at 12:19, Scott Stancil wrote:
> > I will move this as soon as my account is created
> with Trilug (hope I
> > encrypted everything right :) )
> > 
> > Initial Draft: 
> http://www.geekrooms.com/trilug/rhce.html
> > 
> > I really think that week 6 and 8 should probably
> be split into two
> > sessions or the sessions should be extended by an
> hour or two.
> > 
> > Reading suggestions on meetings, I will throw in
> my two cents.  I would
> > prefer online meetings and folks writing or
> augmenting existing
> > documentation to reflect the current RHCE
> distribution specifics,
> > currently RedHat 8.0.
> > 
> > I am partial to newsgroups, perhaps broken up into
> groups or topics?
> > 
> > If we do have meetings, I think the rotational
> approach is a good idea,
> > either repeating Meeting One at both the Durham
> and Raleigh meetings or
> > simply rotating locations, but incrementing the
> meetings. (Raleigh,
> > meeting one; Durham, meeting two; and so on)
> > 
> > Ideally, discussion could occur via IRC, mail, or
> text prior to the
> > meeting.  At the meeting you could go through
> exercises in configuration. 
> > If a topic is particularly complex or difficult,
> perhaps a presentation
> > could be given?  Anyone have a projector?  I would
> think Durham Tech would
> > have one?
> > 
> > Thanks for reading.
> > 
> > -- 
> > Scott Stancil
> > sstancil@geekrooms.com
> > 
> > 
> > 
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