[RHCE] Low Price Tobacco

Jon Carnes rhce@trilug.org
Fri, 21 Mar 2003 11:36:12 -0500


Hay Jim - I feel your pain. I used to deal with this a little more sneakily.
If the email was legit and the user had simply used one of their alternative
email addresses, I would subscribe the new address (no welcome message) and
then set that address to "no mail".

Mailman 2.1.x makes this much easier, as it can all be done with a click on
the Admindb page.

BTW: I can modify the aliases for the current list so that RHCE *does* get
filtered via SpamAssassin before being handed off to Mailman (or actually I
can make Mailman do the scan, either way its not hard).  Let me know if you
want that!

Jon

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Thompson" <jimstigator@yahoo.com>
To: <rhce@trilug.org>
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 10:28 AM
Subject: Re: [RHCE] Low Price Tobacco


> Actually, the list used to be set to "only members can
> post" to the list. However, I UNset that because so
> many people are having basic trouble with trying to
> post to the list from email addresses that are
> different from the one they're actually subscribed
> with.
>
> Each time they do that, it generates an "administrator
> must approve this post" email to the list admin (me)
> who must then approve, deny, or reject the post. Of
> course, the member figures it out and re-submits the
> post with his valid account, but the original message
> must still be dealt with via mailman. I've tried to
> send out some nice "please subscribe to the list if
> you want to post" emails when this happens, but I tend
> to get back indignant "I *AM* SUBSCRIBED, DOOFUS, WHY
> DO YOU H8 ME??!? WHY MUST I DEAL WITH THIS HASSLE??"
> emails in return.
>
> Just relax. This is ONE piece of spam. If we get more,
> I'll set the "non members" bit back. Sound ok?
> Alternately, if everyone violently wants "members
> only" I'll slap it back on straight off, no UN
> resolution required.
>
> Jim
>
>
>
> --- Mike Broome <mbroome@employees.org> wrote:
> > On Fri, Mar 21, 2003 at 09:04:04AM -0500, Jeremy
> > Portzer wrote:
> > > On Fri, 2003-03-21 at 08:58, Mike Broome wrote:
> > > > On Fri, Mar 21, 2003 at 08:52:11AM -0500, Rock
> > Roskam wrote:
> > > > > Grrr! We have been pegged.
> > > >
> > > > Gah!  Now how do we make it stop?
> > > >
> > > > <*insert discussion of the possible steps and
> > probable futility of
> > > > trying to stop spam in today's Internet
> > environment*>
> > > >
> > > > trilug.org is running SpamAssassain, but looking
> > at the headers, it has
> > > > "X-Spam-Status: No, ..." so it wasn't thought to
> > be spam.  Any way to
> > > > change its mind or smarten up SA?
> > >
> > > My headers don't show that -- are you running SA
> > on your own mail
> > > server?
> >
> > Ah, got it.  SA isn't running on the box where I
> > read my mail, but it is
> > running on an intermediate box that forwards to this
> > one.  Sorry for the
> > false alarm.
> >
> > > While SpamAssassin is installed on TriLUG's mail
> > server, it's only
> > > enabled for users who run it from their
> > ~/.procmailrc.  It doesn't
> > > interact with mailman at all.
> >
> > So SA on trilug.org only works for delivery of local
> > trilug.org account
> > e-mail, assuming the user has enabled it via
> > ~/.procmailrc.  Got it.
> >
> > > The real solution is to change this list so that
> > only members can post
> > > -- Jim Thompson, do you want to take care of this
> > or should I?
> >
> > Yep.  This is the solution I recently went to with a
> > majordomo-based
> > mailing list I run on another server.  I get more
> > bounces from people
> > who post from addresses that aren't subscribed.  I
> > think I've heard that
> > mailman makes the process of allowing config of
> > extra addresses for
> > posting relatively painless, but I could be wrong.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > --
> > Mike Broome
> > mbroome(at)employees.org
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