[TriLUG] Scripting Users Group?

[Ken VanDine]

I have worked with Pike/Roxen for the past 4 years.  Fortunately, I was at the decision maker level in those companies and was able to choose the technologies I thought was best.  No selling involved :-).  But, now I am unemployeed and all that Roxen experience isn't useful.

I know what you are saying about the future of Pike.  I think fredrik with do good things with it.  I have talked to some of the folks over at Roxen and they said they feel Pike is at a good place where they don't need to make many more changes.  So, I think Fredrik will go off and improve Pike... and Roxen will just add things here and there when they really need it.  I think ultimately that will hurt Roxen.  I would rather see them give the Pike name to Fredrik and then base Roxen on the Open Source language Pike.  Then they would get to choose which version of Pike to distribute with Roxen.  But, that is my belief and Roxen doesn't feel the same way.  They have basically replaced their entire management team and laid off their top developers.  They told me they got rid of the programmers that weren't team players (meaning the guys that were around at the beginning).

I still do all my personal development in Pike/Roxen/Caudium.

Anyway, I am happy to hear there is another fan in the area.

--Ken


On Fri, Dec 14, 2001 at 10:19:25AM -0500, Brent Verner wrote:
> [2001-12-14 06:34] Ken VanDine said:
> | Did I see Pike listed there... I am a huge Pike fan... I am impressed :-)  Does this mean you have used Roxen as well?  
> 
> um, a bit ;-\  I've played with roxen, but I could never get work
> to subsidize /that/ play.  I was trying to get the company to 
> try to sell the Roxen Platform to some CMS-seeking clients, but
> I never could get the Roxen rep. in touch with our sales-goldfish.
> Sometimes I wish I was in sales, so I could sell cool things for me
> to play with :-)
> 
>   Pike is certainly one of the most interesting languages happening
> right now.  Unfortunately, Fredrik has parted ways with Roxen, and
> I'm not sure that's a good thing for pike's growth, since he's 
> had to fork the codebase.  I'm not sure yet what he's naming it.
> I hope that Roxen does the right thing with their pike.  The biggest
> drawback to pike is that it cannot be embedded in another application
> like most other interpreted languages.
> 
> cheers.
>   brent
> 
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