[TriLUG] FreeBSD

Jeremy P jeremyp at pobox.com
Thu May 23 15:30:30 EDT 2002


A google search on "Greenshields" turns up the Greenshields Brewery and
Pub website as the first result.  (http://www.greenshields.com/ -- also
not exactly hard to deduce.)  Their web site indicates that it's located
in downtown Raleigh, and it has the exact address and directions. Most
people familiar with the Triangle have heard of this place before... I
think that the description was perfectly sufficient, and doing a Google
search would have taken less time than typing your rant... :-)

--Jeremy, who has provided detailed, exact directions with maps for each
of the "remote" TriLUG meetings that I've been involved in (talks at NCSSM
and Installfest at Durham Tech.)


On Thu, 23 May 2002, al johson wrote:

> The problem is that this isn't the first or even the second time that
> someone has attempted to direct the group to some location without giving
> some directions. As far as searching first is concerned, that would work if
> at least a hint is given of its general location. Greenshields could be in
> Durham, Chapel Hill, Raleigh, Cary, Apex, Fuquay-Varina or in Johnston
> County, or even Lee County. Even now I still don't know where in downtown
> Raleigh this place is located. There are a large number of places in
> downtown Raleigh where meetings can be held. Is it a neighborhood?, a
> restaurant?, some sort of business establishment?, a library? No one knows.
> What street is it on? and what well-known streets would direct someone to
> it.
>     Finally, I did not use ALL CAPITALS!! (Since when I started using
> computer there were no lower case letters on the keyboard, I'm always amused
> when someone claims that using all caps means someone is shouting. What
> capitals mean is what the person intended. I realize I cannot yell online,
> so let everyone be forewarned, I USE CAPITALS TO INDICATE  TEXT I WOULD
> ORDINARILY UNDERLINE OR ITALICIZE FOR EMPHASIS. It is a habit from my
> professional writing days before the age of wordprocessors.) Thus, I merely
> capitalize the most important point of my message. If you consider it
> shouting, that is your problem, not mine.
> 
>      It is always amazing to me that people just assume that others will be
> able to find on their own very small places in the Triangle area. "Downtown
> Raleigh" is also a very imprecise location, you might as well say "downtown
> New York" or "downtown Charlotte". What are we doing playing a child's
> guessing game now?? "Well son it's in downtown Raleigh". What's your next
> guess, is it North or South of the Capital?? And what exactly does
> "downtown" mean?? How large is that area??
> 
>      Please let's have some consideration for people who don't have time to
> go searching (many times fruitlessly) for some small, not well-known
> location. Be courteous give people some simple directions to the location.
> Tell how you get there, and then others can use your directions to figure
> out how they can get there.
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <burnett at pobox.com>
> To: <trilug at trilug.org>
> Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 2:10 PM
> Subject: Re: [TriLUG] FreeBSD
> 
> 
> > On Thu, 23 May 2002, al johson wrote:
> >
> > > OK, I give up, WHERE IN THE HECK IS "GREENSHIELDS"??? Sounds like the
> name
> > > of some place in the "Greenacres" TV show. Maybe it's some imaginary
> place
> > > visited only by elves or gnomes?? Please whenever someone is directed to
> > > some place would people be courteous enough to tell the "uninitiated"
> where
> > > it is located?
> >
> > Downtown Raleigh.
> >
> > http://triangle.citysearch.com/profile/6177005/
> >
> > Try thirty seconds of searching before shouting in all caps next time.
> > --
> > Steve Burnett    burnett at pobox.com   http://www.pobox.com/~burnett/
> > System Administration Technical Documentation Information Retrieval
> >
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