[spam score 2/10 -pobox] [TriLUG] Linux Support Position (OT)

[Andrew C. Oliver]

Every society has its caste system.  This is ours.

William W. Ward wrote:

>I've heard this reasoning used in the past when justifying college degrees
>for fairly mundane roles.
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>Analytical thinking and problem solving prowess, committment and probably
>the most important aspect: dealing with horribly flawed bureaucracies that
>run the schools.
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>Industry certifications coupled with multi-year job experience are
>sufficient to ensure a quality candidate for all system administration
>roles, including networks and security. Software developers are another
>group that benefit less from education than good management.  The
>certification exam ensures that the candidate has the applied knowledge (at
>least for the hours necessary to fill out the exam questions,) and the
>experience backs up the ability to carry out the skills (else said candidate
>would likely not be employed for very long, unless he works for the State of
>North Carolina, in which case he or she would be encouraged to stay ignorant
>and ineffective.)  At a high level, where the wheels of theory meet the road
>of application you'll see a benefit from a quality college education, one
>that teaches both the history of computer science as well as current "best
>practices" and methods.  One obviously does not walk into a semiconductor
>design house as a developer without at least a long apprenticeship under
>another.  Indeed even a personnel manager should have some official training
>in dealing with the nontechnical aspects of human resources process.
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>So thats my gripe.  I don't think college does anything for your maturity
>nor your ability by today's standards.  In the 1930's, this was true, I
>think less of that today.  For the record, I have 2 years of NCSU behind me,
>and my girlfriend is a graduate as of August of last year.  I'm currently
>employed as a System Administrator handling Wintel boxes for Gartner, and
>have very little experience administering *nix boxes on an enterprise level.
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>But thats enough of my rant on this topic.  I'm sure its not the first time
>its been mentioned.
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>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Jon Carnes" <jonc at nc.rr.com>
>To: <trilug at trilug.org>
>Sent: Friday, June 28, 2002 12:06 PM
>Subject: Re: [spam score 2/10 -pobox] [TriLUG] Linux Support Position
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>>On Friday 28 June 2002 10:07 am, William W. Ward wrote:
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>>>It is, after all - of supreme importance to have a bachelors degree to
>>>change the tapes in your DLT library.  Let me tell you, that bastard is
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>>>tricky animal to figure out.  All that work in Econ 200 was necessary to
>>>properly understand how to set up the little graphics in Unicenter.
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>>>-b-
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>>While the knowledge gained in college can "sometimes" be a bonus, the
>>reason folks hire a college graduate is the level of maturity and
>>commitment they are supposed to have displayed by earning the degree.
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>>The type of degree is an indication of a persons interest (or commitment
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>>the face of dis-interest for those folks with Accounting degrees...).  If
>>they are going to be working in an IT environment, it helps maintain their
>>commitment if they have an interest in computer science.  Especially while
>>they are doing such mundane tasks as changing tapes in a DLT library....
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>>Most folks will overlook the absence of a college degree if that person
>>can display other evidence of their maturity, commitment, and ability to
>>learn.
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>>Jon (Physics degree from NC State) Carnes
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