[TriLUG] C# and .NET

[Andrew C. Oliver]

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>What *exactly* are you doing that Java isn't fast enough for?
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Java could gain a lot in performance if it had typedefs.

>Sounds like you've never even tried Java and are just blowing smoke
>around.
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agreed.

>There are very few things that Java (running on a modern processor)
>can't handle.  The few exceptions are serious number crunching (eg. 
>en-/de-coding audio/video, scientific software, some games, etc.).  And
>in some of those cases, you can call native (C++, Fortran) routines to
>do the heavy numerical lifting while having a nice, portable Java GUI on
>top.
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In those instances I admittedly would favor a non-Java gui.  Save on 
init time, improve user experience, you
could probably get portability by using gtk or something similar.

>And I'll be shocked to hear that the slightly-revamped J++ VM that *is*
>the C# VM is appreciably faster than one of the newer Sun VMs.  So where
>do you think you're going to get that big speed boost that you claim you
>require?  [Answer: clearly, you *won't*.]
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agreed.

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>>We'll see what turns out,
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>MS has various patents on C# and the CLR.  So don't be too surprised if,
>at some point in the not-too-distant future, the Mono implementation is
>either shut down or severely hampered by those patents.
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disagree.  If Sam says its not an issue thats good enough for me.

>And in the mean time you're smoking crack if you think that you're going
>to solve any of your compute-intensive problems using the Mono tools.
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agreed.  I hear you can do a killer "hello world" console app at this point.

Now "D" on the other hand.....  ;-)

>Ed
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-Andy