OT: flame on (was Re: [TriLUG] Debian Bigots)

[Thunder Bear]

[Vice Chair Hat Off]

On Mon, 2002-07-29 at 10:47, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
> Man I feel all the love.  Now can we all start trying to increase the 
> signal on this conversation and turn it back
> towards Linux?  I'd like to have an in depth conversation about mail 
> servers (it apparently takes at least 6 months
> to set one up on linux).  

Andrew,

I don't know precisely what you're trying to say but I don't much like
the taste of it.

If you're referring to the TriLUG mail server, keep in mind a few
things:

* Bluntly, the stonesoup server was a pile of chicken fecal matter (had
to fit that in somewhere).  I can only imagine how helpful you would
have been during each of its frequent crashes.
* TriLUG is sitting on a nice cache of hardware now, more in fact than
our half rack at Inflow will hold.  One of the things we need to set up
is Kerberos, and another is LDAP.  These two things are typically harder
to set up than mail, and usually require even more up front planning
than actual implementation time.
* TriLUG volunteers are just that, volunteers.  They don't put in 40
hour weeks on this.  They work on projects here and there as time
permits.

> I understand Microsoft Exchange can be set up "securely" in a few 
> minutes.  How odd it takes 6 months to set up
> whatever-mail-service-we-are-planning-to-use on linux ;-)  

Feel free to run Exchange at home.  The more patient of us will
appreciate the nice mail server that is done right.

> I'd like to understand a little more as to why.  

Because the world doesn't revolve around Andrew Oliver's quest for
perfect internet services.

> I'm freeing up for time 
> shortly and I'm planning to set my own mail server up so that I can have 
> email thats at least as reliable as the postal service again (although 
> strangely I've started receiving mine today but it might be a fluke).

Does that mean the complaining will stop?

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