[TriLUG] Newbie Mtg Plans - Part 2

[Vestal, Roy L.]

About the gripe:
I was simply stating that this support group is incredible! However, I've
seen or heard some complaining about "n00b"'s and we all were newbies at one
point. Gripe about politics, M$, your computer vendor, different distro's
but don't complain about folks wanting to learn. If they weren't here,
TriLUG wouldn't be growing and wouldn't be able to do it's mission: "TriLUG
has been incorporated as a 501(c)3 educational non-profit for the purpose of
promoting and supporting the use of Linux and related Free and Open Source
programs in the Triangle area" - http://www.trilug.org 10/22/02

-----Original Message-----
From: Jon Carnes [mailto:jonc at nc.rr.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 3:51 PM
To: trilug at trilug.org
Subject: RE: [TriLUG] Newbie Mtg Plans - Part 2


Thanks for the feedback.  I'll see about adding a section on fetchmail - but
that is sort of a tangent to running a mailserver.  I'm focusing on
corporate and small office setup of mail services.

Fetchmail is cool, but only useful once mail service is setup for a domain.
Maybe I should include it in the section on POP and IMAP.

If folks get value from this class on Mail servers, then I'll be happy to do
a class on DNS/routers/gateways and VPN.

<about the gripe...>
Last time I looked at the TriLUG list it went out to over 600 email
addresses.  On any given day in a population of that size I guess we should
expect a few grouches.  I hope though that the number of helpful folks far
out-weighs the grouches.

As with all things Open Source it really helps to have thick skin when you
ask for help - as well as the ability to separate out fact from opinion.

I know I wouldn't be using Linux today if not for the support given by the
community, and I feel that it is a moral imperative to give something back
to that community. Fortunately a lot of other folks on this list feel the
same. </atg>

Take care - Jon Carnes

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On Mon, 2002-10-21 at 13:32, Vestal, Roy L. wrote:
> Questions:
> -Explain sendmail, fetchmail, mail clients better than the docs on the 
> web. It was a bitty trying to get it working for me.
> 
> -Different types of mail servers: POP,IMAP, etc...
> 
> -What's needed, i.e. hardware requirements, type of connectivity, 
> software needed
> 
> -What's optional, i.e. different mail servers for different types
> 
> -What kind of security is needed, i.e. should it be stand alone, or 
> can it be a file/mail server.
> 
> I know these are basic questions, but I would like to see others have 
> an easier time than I have in learning this stuff. Especially folks 
> wanting to migrate from Windows environments, but not having as a 
> technical backgrounds as others in TriLUG.
> 
> <gripe hat on>
> Just a frustration I'd like to get out. Please keep in mind some of us 
> (I'm including myself) are still learning some or ALL aspects of Linux 
> and it's viability as a replacement for Microsoft products. I 
> personally can build a desktop/workstation or SAMBA based server that 
> can whip any MS machine out there, but I don't know 
> gateways/routers/DNS/mail servers well.
> 
> I know that most folks have been very patient and very helpful, and to 
> you I say THANK YOU!
> 
> But, at least to me, there are some that seem impatient and annoyed 
> that we would even ask a "newbie" question. Please, change it. We're 
> all here to learn from each other. If I've made it difficult, please 
> let me know, privately so we can get it resolved.
> 
> Just my $0.02
> </gripe hat on>
> 
> Now with all that said, Jon and Lisa, thank you for the classes. 
> Please put me down as an attendee. I know I can learn a lot from this.
> 
>  If RTI is decided as the place to have it, please give me a few dates 
> in order of preference so I can get the time on the calendar. Weekends 
> are easier.


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