[TriLUG] Newbie Mtg Plans - Part 2

[Vestal, Roy L.]

Thanks William, but I'm more of a RH guy. I'm very comfortable in that
environment. (Please do use this as a Debian vs. RH vs. Mandrake vs. Uncle
Pete's distro flame war. Just stating my position.)

Eventually, I'm either going to do a Gentoo or a LFS for my servers, but for
now I'm going to stay with RH.

-----Original Message-----
From: William Gomeringer [mailto:neisture at pihlopase.mine.nu] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 12:41 PM
To: trilug at trilug.org
Subject: RE: [TriLUG] Newbie Mtg Plans - Part 2


Well, I could give a talk on that  as I just spent a week getting a mail
server running on my Debian server here at home. After threatening various
pieces of hardwar with digital death, and a little help from the TriLUG
list, I have a mail server up and running nicely. I'll give you a bit of
advice. If you plan on using Debian have someone around who has done it
already. Debian is not for the faint of heart when it comes to these
matters. :) William 
On Tue, 2002-10-22 at 08:55, Vestal, Roy L. wrote:
> Jon,
>  The class you are going to give, will it also cover creating a simple 
> mail server for home use? That's more of what I'm interested in now, 
> but I definitely want to know the business class side. That's where I 
> was trying to go with the questions, not just business but how I can 
> use it at home.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jon Carnes [mailto:jonc at nc.rr.com]
> Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 3:51 PM
> To: trilug at trilug.org
> Subject: RE: [TriLUG] Newbie Mtg Plans - Part 2
> 
> 
> Thanks for the feedback.  I'll see about adding a section on fetchmail 
> - but that is sort of a tangent to running a mailserver.  I'm focusing 
> on corporate and small office setup of mail services.
> 
> Fetchmail is cool, but only useful once mail service is setup for a 
> domain. Maybe I should include it in the section on POP and IMAP.
> 
> If folks get value from this class on Mail servers, then I'll be happy 
> to do a class on DNS/routers/gateways and VPN.
> 
> <about the gripe...>
> Last time I looked at the TriLUG list it went out to over 600 email 
> addresses.  On any given day in a population of that size I guess we 
> should expect a few grouches.  I hope though that the number of 
> helpful folks far out-weighs the grouches.
> 
> As with all things Open Source it really helps to have thick skin when 
> you ask for help - as well as the ability to separate out fact from 
> opinion.
> 
> I know I wouldn't be using Linux today if not for the support given by 
> the community, and I feel that it is a moral imperative to give 
> something back to that community. Fortunately a lot of other folks on 
> this list feel the same. </atg>
> 
> Take care - Jon Carnes
> 
> ===
> On Mon, 2002-10-21 at 13:32, Vestal, Roy L. wrote:
> > Questions:
> > -Explain sendmail, fetchmail, mail clients better than the docs on 
> > the
> > web. It was a bitty trying to get it working for me.
> > 
> > -Different types of mail servers: POP,IMAP, etc...
> > 
> > -What's needed, i.e. hardware requirements, type of connectivity,
> > software needed
> > 
> > -What's optional, i.e. different mail servers for different types
> > 
> > -What kind of security is needed, i.e. should it be stand alone, or
> > can it be a file/mail server.
> > 
> > I know these are basic questions, but I would like to see others 
> > have
> > an easier time than I have in learning this stuff. Especially folks 
> > wanting to migrate from Windows environments, but not having as a 
> > technical backgrounds as others in TriLUG.
> > 
> > <gripe hat on>
> > Just a frustration I'd like to get out. Please keep in mind some of 
> > us
> > (I'm including myself) are still learning some or ALL aspects of Linux 
> > and it's viability as a replacement for Microsoft products. I 
> > personally can build a desktop/workstation or SAMBA based server that 
> > can whip any MS machine out there, but I don't know 
> > gateways/routers/DNS/mail servers well.
> > 
> > I know that most folks have been very patient and very helpful, and 
> > to
> > you I say THANK YOU!
> > 
> > But, at least to me, there are some that seem impatient and annoyed
> > that we would even ask a "newbie" question. Please, change it. We're 
> > all here to learn from each other. If I've made it difficult, please 
> > let me know, privately so we can get it resolved.
> > 
> > Just my $0.02
> > </gripe hat on>
> > 
> > Now with all that said, Jon and Lisa, thank you for the classes.
> > Please put me down as an attendee. I know I can learn a lot from this.
> > 
> >  If RTI is decided as the place to have it, please give me a few 
> > dates
> > in order of preference so I can get the time on the calendar. Weekends 
> > are easier.
> 
> 
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