[TriLUG] Sound recording/editing/archiving - where to start?

Mike Broome mbroome at employees.org
Thu Oct 24 17:36:31 EDT 2002


Google to the rescue ...

  http://www.google.com/search?q=linux+udf+cd

This link looks especially promising/enlightening.  (Take a look at the
FAQ page to see the current level of functionality.)

  CD Packet Writing for Linux: Project Home Page
  http://packet-cd.sourceforge.net/

Mike

On Thu, Oct 24, 2002 at 05:15:17PM -0400, al johson wrote:
> Yep, I think we are in agreement, save one point. I do often use UDF on
> CD-R's simply because at 15 cents a copy you don't mind if you have to throw
> it away. It's especially useful when you're in a rush. You just format the
> CD-R (or RW) and save the files you want to make portable on it. However,
> you must make sure that the computer you're going to use it on can read
> them!! So if anyone knows whether there is software available to read UDF
> disks in Linux, I'd love to hear about it.
>     On the distinction between 700 and 640 disks, I'm probably dating myself
> but the size difference used to be the only thing that differentiated Audio
> from Non-Audio blank CD's. Then someone had the good sense to realize that
> they could save money if they just made the 700 size. ---Hope you're doing
> well.---Al
> ==============
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jeremy Portzer" <jeremyp at pobox.com>
> To: <trilug at trilug.org>
> Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 9:15 AM
> Subject: Re: [TriLUG] Sound recording/editing/archiving - where to start?
> 
> 
> > Catching up on old threads, huh?  :-)
> >
> > On Thu, 2002-10-24 at 02:26, al johson wrote:
> > > >
> > > > There's no such thing as "preformatting" a CD.  All blank CD-Rs are
> > > > created equal (well, except for dye types and such).  The CDs marketed
> as
> > > > specifically for audio use are more expensive because they include a
> > > > licensing fee of sorts for the RIAA.
> > >
> > > =================
> > > "no such thing as 'preformatting' a CD ?"--Well there is such a thing if
> > > you're creating a UDF disk. And yes, you can put music files on a UDF
> disk,
> > > if you just want to play music on your computer! The UDF format is used
> to
> > > pre-format a CD so that you can use it almost like it were a Zip disk!!
> When
> > > you want to put one or more files on a UDF disk you just issue the save
> > > command from the O.S. and it will be saved on the disk. You can also
> delete
> > > any file later on, but unfortunately because the file is burned on the
> disk
> > > you cannot recover the space!
> >
> > You are correct, there is this method.  This is done very rarely with
> > CD-R's (it's mainly useful for CD-RW's, where the space can be
> > recovered), so that's why I didn't mention it.  Thanks for clarifying
> > though.  I've also never heard of this technique, also called "packet
> > writing," being used in Linux, but there's probably a way.  It's
> > possible that there's an intellectual property issue with the UDF
> > format.
> >
> > > "these special music cds are more expensive..."---well sometimes they
> > > aren't!! For example, recently I was in Compusa recently looking for few
> > > inexpensive CD-RW's for a job I needed to perform. The regular el-cheapo
> > > CD-RW's were rather expensive, but then I noticed that their AUDIO
> CD-RW's
> > > were much cheaper in the same small quantity I was looking for. In fact,
> > > they were cheaper that day than the regular CD-RW's in a large
> quantity!!
> > > Remember that in our economic system prices are always fluctuating and
> many
> > > times strange things happen in the way of unexpected bargains. In case
> you
> > > wondered, yes, you can use Audio CD-R's and CD-RW's to store data that
> isn't
> > > audio!! And there is a bit more space on the audio disks (700 vs. ca.
> 660
> > > Megs).However, I haven't yet figured out how to get my burning program
> to
> > > recognize that those extra bytes exist on the blank disks! ---Bon
> >
> > Actually, the distinction between 700 MB and 640MB discs doesn't have
> > anything to do with the so-called "Audio CD-Rs".  Most blanks CDs of all
> > types are 700 MB now (this is acheived by spacing the tracks slightly
> > closer together).  Your CD burning program should be able to
> > automatically detect the capacity of the CD; if not, it should be easily
> > selectable.  For example in xcdroast, the setting is listed under "write
> > parameters" and is specified in minutes of audio capactity.  74 minutes
> > is the standard, 640 MB type.  80 minutes is the 700 MB type.  Both
> > audio and data CDs can be recorded for either type.  (Plus, there are
> > shorter lengths available for the minidiscs / credit card discs.)
> >
> > When downloading ISO files to burn, it's important to be aware of what
> > size CD-R/RW they require.  For example, Mandrake requires the 700MB (80
> > minute) type, but Red Hat only needs the standard, 640MB type, though
> > you can always use a larger size.
> >
> > HTH,
> >
> > Jeremy
> >
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