[TriLUG] RE: TriLUG digest, Vol 1 #562 - 12 msgs
Lynne Deese
ldeese at ncatp.org
Tue Feb 25 15:24:57 EST 2003
My name is Lynne Deese and I work for the North Carolina Assistive
Technology. I assist persons with disabilities in finding the technology
that will best meet their needs. Part of my job is computer access and I am
seeing an increased interest in Linux. There are some fine accessibility
options available at low or no cost. This is particularly attractive to many
consumers that I work with as they are generally low income. Each year our
organization holds a state conference called the EXPO. We would be very
interested in featuring a computer access workshop based on the Linux
operating system. I am looking for persons in the community that might like
to help in procuring and building a Linux lab and assisting me in learning
more about the system and its accessibility options. Please contact me if
this sounds like something you might like to be a part of. NCATP is part of
the Division of Vocational Rehabilitation Service. My work numbers and
other information are below.
***Note the new website and email address.
A.Lynne Deese
North Carolina Assistive Technology Program
ldeese at ncatp.org
www.ncatp.org
1110 Navaho Dr.
Raleigh, NC 27609
919-850-2787 (Phone and TTY)
919-850-2792 (Fax)
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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Installfest hardware planning (Merle Watts)
2. Re: Installfest hardware planning (Sinner from the Prairy)
3. Re: Installfest hardware planning (Jeremy Portzer)
4. Re: Re: [TriLUG] Installfest hardware planning (Merle Watts)
5. Re: Installfest hardware planning (Geoff Purdy)
6. Re: Re: [TriLUG] Installfest hardware planning (Merle Watts)
7. Re: Installfest hardware planning (Chris Hedemark)
8. Re: Installfest hardware planning (Jason Tower)
9. Re: SAMBA for authentication of Linux systems (Corey Mutter)
10. Re: Re: SAMBA for authentication of Linux systems (Kevin Flanagan)
11. Re: Installfest hardware planning (Sinner from the Prairy)
12. [Fwd: Can not send email from moya] (H Brett Bolen)
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Message: 1
From: "Merle Watts" <elremx2 at earthlink.net>
To: <trilug at trilug.org>
Subject: Re: [TriLUG] Installfest hardware planning
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 14:35:03 -0500
Reply-To: trilug at trilug.org
I can bring my desktop to burn cd's. Let me know if it ya want me to.
Will also bring a stack of 100 blank disks.
Can also burn dvd if needed
Can help set up and tear down to.
just tell me what time to be there.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sean Murphy" <S.Murphy at trifith.cotse.net>
To: <trilug at trilug.org>
Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 11:58 PM
Subject: Re: [TriLUG] Installfest hardware planning
>
> >
> > Some things we need to do / bring:
> > * Make sure the ISO burning computer has all the needed parts. Maybe a
> > second iso-burning computer if there's someone who wants to bring one
> > and man it?
> > * Monitors
> > * Keyboards and mice
> > * Power strips and Ethernet patch cables
> > * People coming early (ie before 10:30 am) to help setup stations
> >
> > Let us know if you can help bring stuff and setup/tear down. Thanks!
> > (If you do bring stuff, make sure it's marked so we know whose it is at
> > the end.)
> >
> > --Jeremy
> >
> I can bring some powerstrips and an extra keyboard and mouse. I might be
> able to scronge up a monitor or two. I'll also try to be early but no
> promises, ( I tend to sleep late and get lost easy)
>
> Sean Murphy
>
> S.Murphy_at_trifith.cotse.net
>
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Message: 2
From: Sinner from the Prairy <sinner at escomposlinux.org>
Organization: escomposlinux.org
To: trilug at trilug.org
Subject: Re: [TriLUG] Installfest hardware planning
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 16:02:22 -0500
Reply-To: trilug at trilug.org
On Monday 24 February 2003 02:35 pm, Merle Watts wrote:
> I can bring my desktop to burn cd's. Let me know if it ya want me to.
> Will also bring a stack of 100 blank disks.
Chris Hedemark had a great idea last InstallFest. Someone donates blank CDs
to
TriLUG and TriLUG sells burned Linux distributions "a la carte", for $1/CD
(or something), inorder to increase TriLUG funds.
Has someone thought about setting up a server with the ost recent/used
distros?
RedHat 7.3/8.0/8.1?
Mandrake 8.2/9.0/9.1?
Debian Stable/Unstable
Slackware 8.1
Knoppix
(.. insert here your favourite distro...)
Salut,
Sinner
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 16:32:02 -0500 (EST)
From: Jeremy Portzer <jeremyp at pobox.com>
To: trilug at trilug.org
Subject: Re: [TriLUG] Installfest hardware planning
Reply-To: trilug at trilug.org
On Mon, 24 Feb 2003, Sinner from the Prairy wrote:
> On Monday 24 February 2003 02:35 pm, Merle Watts wrote:
> > I can bring my desktop to burn cd's. Let me know if it ya want me to.
> > Will also bring a stack of 100 blank disks.
>
> Chris Hedemark had a great idea last InstallFest. Someone donates blank
CDs to
> TriLUG and TriLUG sells burned Linux distributions "a la carte", for $1/CD
> (or something), inorder to increase TriLUG funds.
>
> Has someone thought about setting up a server with the ost recent/used
> distros?
Yes, please read my original message.
> RedHat 7.3/8.0/8.1?
> Mandrake 8.2/9.0/9.1?
> Debian Stable/Unstable
> Slackware 8.1
> Knoppix
> (.. insert here your favourite distro...)
I'm setting up a server with Red Hat 7.3 and 8.0, Mandrake 9, and Debian
stable (maybe testing if I still have room) -- network isntall trees.
This will be on Durham Tech's network; we'll have the information
available at the installfests. No Internet installations will be possible
due to bandwidth constraints.
Jason is setting up a CD-burning workstation with the ISOs of MDK 9 and
Red Hat 8.0. I agree that we should repeat Chris's plan of selling the
CDs for a small fee as a minor fundraiser. Merle, if you could bring the
CDs for this and work with Jason on getting the server that would be cool.
Or if you think we should have two servers that's fine.
Let's say setup begins at 9am. There will be quite a few tables and
chairs that need to be moved, and we'll have to setup the network and power.
There aren't all that many power outlets in the room, so the more
extension cords and power strips that people can bring, the better!
Thanks,
Jeremy
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 14:32:33 -0500 (GMT)
From: Merle Watts <elremx2 at earthlink.net>
To: trilug at trilug.org
Subject: Re: Re: [TriLUG] Installfest hardware planning
Reply-To: trilug at trilug.org
I thought about setting up a server at home but i dont know how to do it
yet.
Bust buy has cd's right now for $8 after the rebate for a pack of 100
-------Original Message-------
From: Sinner from the Prairy <sinner at escomposlinux.org>
Sent: 02/24/03 04:02 PM
To: trilug at trilug.org
Subject: Re: [TriLUG] Installfest hardware planning
>
> On Monday 24 February 2003 02:35 pm, Merle Watts wrote:
> I can bring my desktop to burn cd's. Let me know if it ya want me to.
> Will also bring a stack of 100 blank disks.
Chris Hedemark had a great idea last InstallFest. Someone donates blank
CDs to
TriLUG and TriLUG sells burned Linux distributions "a la carte", for $1/CD
(or something), inorder to increase TriLUG funds.
Has someone thought about setting up a server with the ost recent/used
distros?
RedHat 7.3/8.0/8.1?
Mandrake 8.2/9.0/9.1?
Debian Stable/Unstable
Slackware 8.1
Knoppix
(.. insert here your favourite distro...)
Salut,
Sinner
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Message: 5
Subject: Re: [TriLUG] Installfest hardware planning
From: Geoff Purdy <geoff.purdy at verizon.net>
To: trilug at trilug.org
Date: 24 Feb 2003 18:03:55 -0500
Reply-To: trilug at trilug.org
On Mon, 2003-02-24 at 16:32, Jeremy Portzer wrote:
> Jason is setting up a CD-burning workstation with the ISOs of MDK 9 and
> Red Hat 8.0. I agree that we should repeat Chris's plan of selling the
> CDs for a small fee as a minor fundraiser. Merle, if you could bring the
> CDs for this and work with Jason on getting the server that would be cool.
> Or if you think we should have two servers that's fine.
Burning distros is a great idea. I have a bunch of 50 / 100 / 200 packs
of good quality CDR's lying around I'd gladly donate to the LUG, if
needed.
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 15:33:10 -0500 (GMT)
From: Merle Watts <elremx2 at earthlink.net>
To: trilug at trilug.org
Subject: Re: Re: [TriLUG] Installfest hardware planning
Reply-To: trilug at trilug.org
I can do that.
Jason, let me know who ya are and we'll figure out what we need to do.
-------Original Message-------
From: Geoff Purdy <geoff.purdy at verizon.net>
Sent: 02/24/03 06:03 PM
To: trilug at trilug.org
Subject: Re: [TriLUG] Installfest hardware planning
>
> On Mon, 2003-02-24 at 16:32, Jeremy Portzer wrote:
> Jason is setting up a CD-burning workstation with the ISOs of MDK 9 and
> Red Hat 8.0. I agree that we should repeat Chris's plan of selling the
> CDs for a small fee as a minor fundraiser. Merle, if you could bring
the
> CDs for this and work with Jason on getting the server that would be
cool.
> Or if you think we should have two servers that's fine.
Burning distros is a great idea. I have a bunch of 50 / 100 / 200 packs
of good quality CDR's lying around I'd gladly donate to the LUG, if
needed.
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 20:23:03 -0500
Subject: Re: [TriLUG] Installfest hardware planning
From: Chris Hedemark <chrish at trilug.org>
To: trilug at trilug.org
Reply-To: trilug at trilug.org
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On Monday, February 24, 2003, at 04:02 PM, Sinner from the Prairy wrote:
> Chris Hedemark had a great idea last InstallFest. Someone donates
> blank CDs to
> TriLUG and TriLUG sells burned Linux distributions "a la carte", for
> $1/CD
> (or something), inorder to increase TriLUG funds.
I was thinking of how to put it without coming off wrong. :-) Now
that you broached the subject...
What I learned is that having a CD-R there is nice and all, but the
best thing to do is have pre-made sets of the latest Red Hat (and a
couple of Mandrakes... but Red Hat was far and away the most
requested), put them in the super-slim jewel cases, and sell them for
$10 for a set of 3 discs. 100% of the $10 went to TriLUG.
Sure, I could have put $20 in the box as a donation. But my money went
a lot farther by buying CD's, burning Red Hat ISO's, and donating 100%
of the take to TriLUG.
> Has someone thought about setting up a server with the ost recent/used
> distros?
>
> RedHat 7.3/8.0/8.1?
> Mandrake 8.2/9.0/9.1?
> Debian Stable/Unstable
> Slackware 8.1
> Knoppix
> (.. insert here your favourite distro...)
I had an FTP server set up at the last installfest and again Red Hat
was far and away the favorite. Someone always seems to bring a sparc
station so you might want to have on-hand one or two sparc distros
(Aurora is the most up-to-date, Debian is also a good one). Having the
latest Mandrake tree online would also be good.
It might not be a bad idea to set up a kickstart floppy image to
automate the Red Hat installs since they seem to be the most popular.
Chris Hedemark
PGP/GnuPG Public Key at http://yonderway.com/chris/hedemark.gpg
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Message: 8
From: Jason Tower <jason at cerient.net>
To: trilug at trilug.org
Subject: Re: [TriLUG] Installfest hardware planning
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 20:38:45 -0500
Reply-To: trilug at trilug.org
as it turns out, i'm planning on doing all of the above, er, below. i'll=
=20
pre-burn several sets of red hat CDs and bring them with me, all proceeds=
=20
will go to the trilug coffers. and i'll make a handful of kickstart flop=
pys=20
preconfigured to perform an automatic nfs install from my server. howeve=
r,=20
since most PCs will need manual intervention for disk partitioning,=20
passwords, networking, package selection, and X configuration, i don't th=
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kickstart will help overly much. but it's always neat to see a 100%=20
hands-off installation!
if anyone would like to donate blank CDs to trilug, we certainly can use =
them. =20
please bring them to the installfest or any other trilug function and the=
y=20
will be put to good use.
jason
On Monday 24 February 2003 20:23, Chris Hedemark wrote:
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> On Monday, February 24, 2003, at 04:02 PM, Sinner from the Prairy wrote=
:
> > Chris Hedemark had a great idea last InstallFest. Someone donates
> > blank CDs to
> > TriLUG and TriLUG sells burned Linux distributions "a la carte", for
> > $1/CD
> > (or something), inorder to increase TriLUG funds.
>
> I was thinking of how to put it without coming off wrong. :-) Now
> that you broached the subject...
>
> What I learned is that having a CD-R there is nice and all, but the
> best thing to do is have pre-made sets of the latest Red Hat (and a
> couple of Mandrakes... but Red Hat was far and away the most
> requested), put them in the super-slim jewel cases, and sell them for
> $10 for a set of 3 discs. 100% of the $10 went to TriLUG.
>
> Sure, I could have put $20 in the box as a donation. But my money went
> a lot farther by buying CD's, burning Red Hat ISO's, and donating 100%
> of the take to TriLUG.
>
> > Has someone thought about setting up a server with the ost recent/use=
d
> > distros?
> >
> > RedHat 7.3/8.0/8.1?
> > Mandrake 8.2/9.0/9.1?
> > Debian Stable/Unstable
> > Slackware 8.1
> > Knoppix
> > (.. insert here your favourite distro...)
>
> I had an FTP server set up at the last installfest and again Red Hat
> was far and away the favorite. Someone always seems to bring a sparc
> station so you might want to have on-hand one or two sparc distros
> (Aurora is the most up-to-date, Debian is also a good one). Having the
> latest Mandrake tree online would also be good.
>
> It might not be a bad idea to set up a kickstart floppy image to
> automate the Red Hat installs since they seem to be the most popular.
>
> Chris Hedemark
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Message: 9
From: Corey Mutter <mutterc at nc.rr.com>
To: trilug at trilug.org
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 20:59:13 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [TriLUG] Re: SAMBA for authentication of Linux systems
Reply-To: trilug at trilug.org
Samba's docs say that the current release of winbindd can't authenticate
against a Samba emulated PDC, only against an MS DC.
(I was just researching this kind of thimg myself and came across
this...)
Corey
> I'm using a SAMBA server that is configured as a Domain Controller.
> I have been able to login to the domain from
>
> Windows XP system, that was easy, join and go.
>
> Mandrake 9.0 system, I had to manually join the domain with
smbpasswd,
> but it's not too bad.
>
>
>
>
> I can't make Redhat 8.0 systems authenticate against the domain.
I
> just finished upgrading SAMBA to the latest stable release, a few
> minutes ago, no dice.
>
> Winbindd is running.
> SMB.conf has
> security = domain
> passwword server = *
> nsswitch.conf has
> passwd: files winbind
> groups: files winbind
>
>
>
>
> Any ideas about what I'm missing?
>
>
> TIA,
>
>
> Kevin
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Message: 10
Subject: Re: [TriLUG] Re: SAMBA for authentication of Linux systems
From: Kevin Flanagan <kevin at flanagannc.net>
To: trilug at trilug.org
Organization:
Date: 24 Feb 2003 21:07:38 -0500
Reply-To: trilug at trilug.org
On Mon, 2003-02-24 at 20:59, Corey Mutter wrote:
> Samba's docs say that the current release of winbindd can't authenticate
> against a Samba emulated PDC, only against an MS DC.
> (I was just researching this kind of thimg myself and came across
> this...)
>
Then I wonder how Mandrake is doing it.
Thoughts?
Thanks!
> Corey
>
> > I'm using a SAMBA server that is configured as a Domain Controller.
> > I have been able to login to the domain from
> >
> > Windows XP system, that was easy, join and go.
> >
> > Mandrake 9.0 system, I had to manually join the domain with
smbpasswd,
> > but it's not too bad.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I can't make Redhat 8.0 systems authenticate against the domain.
I
> > just finished upgrading SAMBA to the latest stable release, a few
> > minutes ago, no dice.
> >
> > Winbindd is running.
> > SMB.conf has
> > security = domain
> > passwword server = *
> > nsswitch.conf has
> > passwd: files winbind
> > groups: files winbind
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Any ideas about what I'm missing?
> >
> >
> > TIA,
> >
> >
> > Kevin
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Message: 11
From: Sinner from the Prairy <sinner at escomposlinux.org>
Organization: escomposlinux.org
To: trilug at trilug.org
Subject: Re: [TriLUG] Installfest hardware planning
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 08:25:17 -0500
Reply-To: trilug at trilug.org
On Monday 24 February 2003 04:0216pm, Sinner from the Prairy wrote:
> Chris Hedemark had a great idea last InstallFest. Someone donates
> blank CDs to TriLUG and TriLUG sells burned Linux distributions "a la
> carte", for $1/CD (or something), inorder to increase TriLUG funds.
Also, for RedHat 8.0 and Mandrake 9.1, it would be a good idea to,
maybe, get an extra CD with the updates or something.
Remember to get a sign saying something like:
<BIG FONTS>
"Get your own Linux CDs here!"
</BIG FONTS>
"Note: your small contribution will go to the funds of this Non-profit
Organization... bla bla bla.... if you wat a receipt for your taxes ...
bla bla bla"
Salut,
Sinner
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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 10:37:57 -0500
From: H Brett Bolen <brettb at nc.rr.com>
Organization: www.tcni.com
To: trilug at trilug.org
Subject: [TriLUG] [Fwd: Can not send email from moya]
Reply-To: trilug at trilug.org
I sent this to hostmaster at trilug.org ( as specified in the
certificate), but it bounced.
Is anybody having trouble sending email from moya?
b
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Subject: Can not send email from moya
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 10:36:39 -0500
From: H Brett Bolen <brettb at nc.rr.com>
Reply-To: bolen at tcni.com
Organization: www.tcni.com
To: brettb at trilug.org, hostmaster at trilug.org
looks like a certificate problem.
Getting email is fine.
sending email causes a popup 'Unknown certificate', with
accept, reject buttons.
If I accept it, it comes back with same dialog box 'Unknown certificate'
It will keep on putting the the dialog box up if I keep accepting it.
Has this changed recently?
I'm using mozilla 1.2 to send email.
b
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