[TriLUG] Novell going the Linux way

[Mike]

I kinda liked Novell.  IMHO, it would be great if they would open up some of 
their file system technology.  As far as I know, they are still the only OS 
with a file system that lets you recover a file that was updated with the 
same name (I know, M$ is about to do this).  Once you get used to this, it's 
hard to do without. 

Mike

On Friday 18 April 2003 23:15, Mark Shuford wrote:
> On Fri, 18 Apr 2003 09:13:41 -0400
>
> John Franklin <franklin at elfie.org> wrote:
> > >         WITH FRIENDS LIKE THESE, WHO NEEDS MICROSOFT?
> > >
> > >       "Linux is an immature operating system. It hasn't had somebody
> > >       like Novell worrying about making it robust, reliable and
> > > scalable."
> > >
> > >           Novell CEO Jack Messman, on how he expects the moribund Utah
> > >           software firm will do more for Linux than lightweights like
> > >           IBM, Sun, and HP, ComputerWeekly, 16 April 2003
> > >
> > > http://www.computerweekly.com/articles/article.asp?liArticleID=121012
> > >
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>
> Oh, cool! This Messman is really a Mess. I've been looking for a new,
> really funny comedian -- I'm glad he's come along...
>
>
> Oh I always _hated_ working on Novell. Whenever I needed to do heavy duty
> mass things to files on a Novell box I found the best way, most of the
> time, was through connection across the network from a client box -- real
> efficient, yeah.
>
> Not like when you're running services on a machine with a real operating
> system. Then you can use all the OS's native tools to do anything you can
> dream of.
>
> I handled DEC PathWorks on both VAX/VMS, OpenVMS, and Digital Unix.
> Compared to didlin' with Novell it was absolute joy all around.
>
> And speaking of DEC, does this sound familiar? (from Messman):
>
> He added, "We were an engineering-focused company. We never listened to the
> customer. We developed these great, gee-whiz products and threw them over
> the wall to marketing and said, 'Go sell it, guys; we're done with it.' We
> thought that if you created a great product, the world would beat a path to
> your door."
>
> Another really good one from Mess Man... uh, Messman, I mean...
>
> "With Linux on Intel boxes coming out that significantly reduce your costs,
> that became a viable alternative, and we started seriously looking at it.
> And the customers told us that's what they were thinking about."
>
> Does he mean they weren't listening to the customers before?