[TriLUG] RHCE and RHCT

[Meyer, David R]

Come on...don't hold back...tell us how you REALLY feel (lol)

-----Original Message-----
From: Glenn Meyer [mailto:me at glennmeyer.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 4:22 PM
To: trilug at trilug.org
Subject: Re: [TriLUG] RHCE and RHCT

I have to agree.  I took both the rh133 and rh253 since the company was 
paying for it.  However, I have a little different thought about the 
classes that may or may not fit with your style.  Before I go into a 
class, I go through at least one of the 1000 page books on the subject -

hands on with hardware - as if it's up to me to learn it on my own. 
Then I go to the class well informed and can ask intelligent questions 
to fill in the holes in my self study.  This is why...

Over the years, I have taken the two Red Hat classes and a bunch of 
Microsoft classes.  I have found that with only one or two exceptions, 
the instructors basically read to the class out of the curriculum and 
added a little bit of their own experience - sometimes very little - 
often because they had very little or no real life experience.  I have 
been in several classes where the instructors couldn't get the labs to 
work, couldn't make the examples work, couldn't answer questions, etc. 
To me, that is in-excusable.  They are supposed to be the pro - at least

that's what $2500/week says to me.  I have asked for refunds more than
once.

I learned early on that I had to take control of the learning process 
and not depend on the class to teach me, but to only polish what I 
already knew.

If I were going to take the exam now, I would set up two boxes with Red 
Hat 9.0 (the exam will be geared to the current version as far as paths,

etc.), buy two good books, and work only with Red Hat (to not confuse 
yourself with other distros).  Then take the exam - or - If you are 
wanting to take a class, go with self study and then just the 
accelerated class and exam.

Sorry for the sermon/rant - guess one of my pet gripes is spending $2500

to have someone with no experience read to me from a test that they 
don't understand.




Jason Tower wrote:
> i took the rh253 class a couple of years ago, it was ok but not 
> outstanding.  you'd probably be better of just hacking around for a 
> week and spending the cash on hardware and books.
> 
> jason
> 
> On Tuesday 22 April 2003 15:27, Jeffery Painter wrote:
> 
>>Has anyone on the list taken the courses offered by RedHat for these
>>certifications?
>>
>>I'm going to be finishing up a project in about two weeks and I'm
>>thinking of signing up. The fast track looks more appealing to me
>>than the standard course offerings... also wondering if anyone knows
>>about just taking the exams rather than the whole course. I do need
>>to incur some more "business expenses" this year for tax purposes so
>>this may be a fun way to do it.
>>
>>
>>comments??
>>
>>
>>Jeff Painter
>>painter at kiasoft.com
>>
>>
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