[TriLUG] Who runs Red Hat and KDE

[karl thiele]

Chris Hedemark wrote:

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> On Sunday, May 25, 2003, at 01:09 PM, karl thiele wrote:
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>> Just goes to show that RH is really a company interested in profits, 
>> buy my upgrade every 6 months.
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> Whoah, wait a minute.  You can't begrudge them that.  Red Hat is *not* 
> a non-profit org or anything.  They are a publicly traded company and 
> *obligated* to make money for their shareholders. 

I am not begrudging them. I am saying we have to realize that are doing 
this for free and they are going to do what is best for thier bottom line.

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> Do I have some beefs with the methods that they use to achieve that 
> goal?  Yeah, sure.  But I don't think it is appropriate at all to 
> imply that their goal of making profit from their work is a bad 
> thing.  As an enterprise customer, I don't think that they've been 
> particularly interested in providing what I'm looking for in a Linux 
> distro, or the service package that I'm after.  No biggy.  I talked 
> about it with my account team, they don't have what I want, no biggy.  
> Next year we go somewhere else.  Freedom of choice is a good thing.  
> Obviously somebody likes what Red Hat is offering and they're doing 
> well.  Good for them.  Good for us.
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>> The people this hurts most are the individual who want to keep up 
>> with the lastest but are not technical enough to do it on thier own 
>> and rely on the distributions to provide upgrades. In this regard the 
>> distributors are no different than any other software vendor, except 
>> by GPL, they have to give it away for free and in source. I wonder 
>> how they would do business if the GPL was not in place?
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> For the most part I think RH has been pretty good about keeping their 
> stuff freely available.  They could play license games with their 
> distro like Caldera, or not provide free ISO's like SuSE.  But I think 
> they've actually got a very good track record on licensing. \

I was wondering out loud. I agree, I like thier ISOs. I would like to 
believe they would operate the same way they are now. I am a bit 
surprized at what SCO is doing.  I would find it hard to believe RH 
would entertain anything to force folks into a proprietary model. That 
is to say you have to get it from us or it will not run...............

Can we go back to the intent of this tread? I was just asking some 
simple questions. I just wanted to know if others were in the same boat 
as me on occassion. Just trying to maybe save others time. I was just 
trying to sort out upgrades for KDE and RH. I figured others had gone 
down this path just looking for some comments and this turned into whateve

Do you run RH and KDE? Do you only upgrade your desktop with a new 
release of RH?  

-karl

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