[TriLUG] Mandrake

Greg Brown gregbrown at mindspring.com
Thu Oct 23 19:06:12 EDT 2003


As far as the theory behind the mandrake club goes I don't mind 
supporting the distribution that I use.  I would have very happily kept 
paying $40.00 (or more) for boxed RH linux distributions the rest of my 
computing days.  I had LONG ago hoped that RH would set up something 
where you could have paid for downloads of the ISOs without having to 
purchase a boxed set.  I suggested this time and time again to several 
people inside RH.  I didn't  necessarily want the boxed set, but I 
wanted to support the company that was producing the software (as well 
as keeping it up to date).  I would have happily paid $40.00 into a RH 
"tip jar" kind of thing and d/l'ed the ISO for each new version.  Alas, 
it was not to be.  I wonder how many other users of RH software would 
have done the same thing.

I'm going to give Mandrake a try and if the software is as good as 
everyone says it is I'll be happily forking over my $60.00 a year to 
keep supporting it.

Greg

On Thursday, Oct 23, 2003, at 16:56 US/Eastern, Tanner Lovelace wrote:

> Rock Roskam wrote:
>> I am new to the current Mandrake and I have some questions about it.  
>> I am not willing to join their club as an individual but definitely 
>> would contribute to having a trilug account.
>> 1.  This club mantra is very annoying.  In order to access the main 
>> forums you have to be a member.  So far I have been going to 
>> mandrakeusers.org for answers.  Is there a better repository for 
>> getting answers?
>
> Why is it annoying?  There has to be *some* benefits for membership
> and the club forums are part of that.  You can choose to join or not.
> There are plenty of other websites you can also check.  Look at the top
> of any mandrake page and you'll see something like:
>
> MandrakeSoft MandrakeStore MandrakeClub MandrakeExpert MandrakeBizCases
> MandrakeSecure MandrakePartner
>
> Click on one of those links to go to the appropriate site.  Only the 
> club
> one requires membership.
>
>> 2.  The urpmi seems to be tied into the club mantra.  Are there 
>> sources to go to without club status.  I have found PLF sources but 
>> want to be certain I have found all the sources I need.
>
> While the club does provide it's own urpmi sources, there is *nothing*
> about urpmi that ties it to the club.  Go to 
> http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/
> to fill out all the sources you could ever want (it will give you the
> *exact* commands you need to do so).
>
>> 3.  Will cooker sources corrupt my urpmi for 9.2?  I wanted tuxpaint 
>> for my kids RH9 via apt-get or yum could not handle this.  But a 
>> cooker source gave it up to install and run.
>
> As with any *experimental* distribution you should absolutely know what
> you're doing before attempting to run it.  Basically, if you would feel
> comfortable running Debian Unstable, then feel free to try out cooker.
> If not, then don't.  Installing packages from Cooker onto a stable 
> release
> may or may not work.  What you can often do, though, is take the 
> src.rpm
> file and rebuild it on your stable workstation.  Google for links on 
> how
> to do that or see the slides from the presentation I did for trilug.
>
>> 4.  Why does maelstrom under windows try to access the firewall?
>
> Are you sure you're on the right list? ;-)
>
>> I feel a little lost and listless with Red Hats change.  I like the 
>> look of Mandrake but the pressure for the club may be too much.  I am 
>> not ready for a monthly fee for linux.  I do not feel ready for the 
>> challenge of Gentoo or Debian against my hardware.
>
> Who says you have to have a monthly fee?  Install mandrake, try the
> url I gave above for urpmi sources and be happy.  You absolutely
> don't have to be a member of the club to use mandrake very effectively.
>
> Cheers,
> Tanner
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