[TriLUG] On Topic - trusted computing vs Linux usability (was OT : Don't let Cheney hide)

[Dave Sorenson]

For the love of what ever deity you believe in someone please break 
something so we can talk about Linux again!!  Trilug was the last 
outpost I could turn to to get a break from the silly season.

Dave

Tanner Lovelace wrote:
> On Thu, 7 Oct 2004 14:09:28 -0400, Mike M
> <no-linux-support at earthlink.net> wrote:
> 
>>Did you say bullshit?  :-)
> 
> 
> Yes, but in a much more classy way.
>  
> 
>>Given that TriLUG is incorporated as a 501(c)3 educational non-profit
>>that may not have purposes or activities that are illegal or violate
>>fundamental public policy, I would think that running a public
>>discussion forum and suppressing OT posts might be unwise.
>>
>>http://www.irs.gov/charities/charitable/article/0,,id=123299,00.html
>>
>>The public does have a right to expect certain things from 501(c)(3)
>>organizations because they are tax-exempt.
> 
> 
> Nothing on that website says we as a private organization, even a 
> 501c3 one, have to let you say whatever you want with our
> resources.  The 1st ammendment, which you cited before,
> doesn't cover us at all.  It ONLY refers to government, which
> we are not.
>  
> 
>>Hacking and posting are not the same thing.  Hacking is illegal.
>>Posting on an open list is protected by the First Amendment.
> 
> 
> No, it is not.  You're welcome to say whatever you want, but that
> doesn't mean we HAVE to let you use our resources to do so.
> If you want to setup your own list to say stuff, go right ahead.
> The first ammendment does NOT cover any private entities.
> 
> 
>>I agree this is not an appropriate forum for
>>general political discussion.  The point is that you cannot stop
>>someone from making OT statements in an open forum.  You can
>>ignore them and you can disuade them but you cannot stop them.
>>
>>Anyone that has read extensively on Linux and FOSS understands
>>that there are political issues surrounding these topics.  Related
>>political issues naturally lead to general political issues.
> 
> 
> No, they don't.  If you want to talk about linux/FOSS and politics
> related to that, fine, go ahead.  But, general political talk is not
> appropriate for this list and will not be tolerated anymore.
>  
> 
>>2004-11-02 will come and go and we'll be done with politics for the
>>time being.
> 
> 
> Oh, so we should let the list go to hell in a handbasket for just the
> next three weeks and then things will get better?  I don't think so.
> Something else would always come along.
> 
> Tanner