I hope you all enjoyed you St. Patrick's Day this week. Did anyone besides me notice that following: $ date +%s -d 'March 17, 2005 7:58:31pm CST' 1111111111 Now, that won't happen very often! (don't ask why I was in CST -- I was helping a customer in Texas remotely...) -- Scott G. Hall Raleigh, NC, USA ScottGHall at BellSouth.Net