[TriLUG] Jabber usernames

[Joel Ebel]

I'm not sure I understand what exactly you're trying to do.  /whois only 
gives you information about a user who's nick you already know.  And not 
much information for that matter.  You can look up a vcard in jabber and 
it will show you whatever information the user has entered about 
themself.  This appears analogous to IRC's whois command, but has the 
potential for providing even more information.  But what I thought you 
were asking about was finding someone's nick knowing their name.  I 
don't know how you'd do this in IRC, but with jabber, if they have 
registered with the JUD, then they are searchable by name or email 
address.  Of course you have to use a client that supports the JUD.  As 
for listing the rooms available on a chat server, any client supporting 
service discovery or browsing should be able to list the public rooms on 
a server by browsing to the conference server.  In our case, 
conference.jabber.trilug.org.

What I said about being connected to a room meant this:  In IRC if you 
meet someone in a channel and wish to converse with them directly, you 
can do so.  In a jabber conference room, users have aliases rather than 
displaying their real jid, for privacy.  But, you can still send a 
private message to them while they are connected to the room, and you 
have the option of exchanging your real jid through that channel.  It 
just offers users a little more privacy over who can talk to them directly.

Many of these features depend on using a client that supports these 
features.  Multi-protocol clients are notorious for leaving out 
important features of jabber.

Joel

Jeff Groves wrote:
> I'm not sure I follow your line of thought concerning "IRC presuming you 
> are already in the same channel".  I know that in any (compliant) IRC 
> client, all I have to do is connect to the server, do a /list to see all 
> of the channels or do a /whois <nick> to find someone.
> 
> I have yet to find either such feature for Jabber in Trillian or Gaim.  
> Am I missing something?  It seems that with Jabber, you just "have to 
> know" and it's not going to help you find it.
> 
> Jeff G.
> 
> Joel Ebel wrote:
> 
>> Well, on IRC it presumes you are already in the same channel as 
>> someone.  If on jabber, you were both in a MUC room, you could send a 
>> message to them privately without getting their JID.  You can also 
>> privately send someone your jid through MUC if you want them to know 
>> who you really are.
>>
>> Also, there is a jabber user directory.  This is voluntary to register 
>> with, but if you want to facilitate people finding you, register with 
>> the JUD.
>>
>> Joel
>>
>> Jeff Groves wrote:
>>
>>> This is the problem that I have with Jabber in comparison to IRC.
>>>
>>> Out of band query to find the username.  Unnecessary in IRC.
>>>
>>>
>>> John Broome wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 6/8/05, Jason Faulkner <jasonlf at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>> What are you known as on jabber?
>>>>>   
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> jbroome at jabber.trilug.org
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>
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