[TriLUG] AMD vs. Intel
Jim Ray
jim at neuse.net
Wed Aug 2 21:42:24 EDT 2006
holy crap, batman! my pea brain just short circuited on that command
line :-)
Jason wrote:
> USE="X gtk2 gnome -esd -arts -alsa jpeg png apache2 php5 mysql qt ssl mjpeg mmx server opengl
> nptl nptlonly a52 avi dvd dvdread divx4linux dv encode frame mpeg ogg mp3 quicktime vorbis xvid
> screen sqlite imap"
>
> jason at spike ~ $ cat /etc/portage/package.keywords
> =app-text/crm114-20060118 ~*
> =dev-libs/tre-0.7.3 ~*
> net-im/naim ~sparc
> net-misc/vpnc ~sparc
> =net-misc/nx-x11-1.5.0-r8 ~*
> net-misc/nxserver-freenx ~*
> net-misc/nxcomp ~*
> sys-fs/udev ~sparc
> app-text/catdoc ~*
> net-p2p/ctorrent ~sparc
>
> Jason
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 02, 2006 at 11:50:24AM -0400, OlsonE at aosa.army.mil wrote:
>> What are you using for:
>>
>> ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=""?
>>
>> How is it working? Are you using a GUI (which one)?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: trilug-bounces at trilug.org [mailto:trilug-bounces at trilug.org] On
>> Behalf Of Jason
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 11:48 AM
>> To: Triangle Linux Users Group discussion list
>> Subject: Re: [TriLUG] AMD vs. Intel
>>
>> I just installed gentoo on a 500Mhz ultrasparc II box.. that count? ;)
>>
>> Jason
>>
>> On Wed, Aug
>> 02, 2006 at 11:09:38AM -0400, Greg Brown wrote:
>>> What ever happened to my Digital Unix box running on 64 bit Alpha
>> chips?
>>> And that was 1995 or 1996. One would think we would be further down
>>> the 64 bit path by this point.
>>>
>>> On 8/2/06, OlsonE at aosa.army.mil <OlsonE at aosa.army.mil> wrote:
>>>> Jim,
>>>>
>>>> Same issues here with x64 as well. What a shame. I'll be content once
>>>> x64 Linux is a little more mainstream (and less buggy).
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: trilug-bounces at trilug.org [mailto:trilug-bounces at trilug.org] On
>>>> Behalf Of Jim Ray
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 5:38 PM
>>>> To: Triangle Linux Users Group discussion list
>>>> Subject: Re: [TriLUG] AMD vs. Intel
>>>>
>>>> yes, really. not that anyone cares to discuss winders in this group;
>>>> however, symantec antivirus corporate edition as well as winder's own
>>>> WSUS puke hard with 64 bit Windows 2003 Server.
>>>>
>>> >from a server point of view, that's a show stopper and very specific.
>>>> WinXP64 is not a server OS. i'll defer judgement on 64 bit desktops
>>>> to others since the majority of my customers have 32 bit hardware and
>>>> don't care.
>>>>
>>>> all the best for a happy and safe move to NY just the same, though.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Jim
>>>>
>>>> Jim Ray, President
>>>> Neuse River Networks
>>>> 2610 Vanderbilt Ave.
>>>> Raleigh, NC 27607-7247
>>>>
>>>> tel: 919-838-1672
>>>> cell: 919-606-1772
>>>> http://www.Neuse.Net
>>>>
>>>> Connecting You to the World since 1997
>>>>
>>>> Matthew Lavigne wrote:
>>>>> Really? I have only seen that basically anything that runs as a
>>>>> service looks for 64 bit and then dies (namely Antivirus). In my
>>>>> old shop (yes, it is not mine anymore) we installed and ran
>>>>> everything as
>>>>> 32 bit with the exception of antivirus. In the course of 24 months
>>>>> we
>>>>> have never had a conflict where an application acted badly other
>>>>> then trying to install again a 32 bit antivirus on WinXP64.
>>>>>
>>>>> A little more qualification would be nice rather then
>>>>> generalizations,
>>>>> especially if you have some known bad applications.
>>>>>
>>>>> Personally I have found very little that would force me to 64 bit
>>>>> Windows though the workstation that I have (along with the 6GB of
>>>>> system memory) would drive me to. It is not difficult to use the
>>>>> /PAE
>>>>> switch or several others to push the memory limits around
>>>>> (especially if you have Xeon CPUs).
>>>>>
>>>>> This box isn't linux yet cause there is too much that I need to
>>>>> convert to a vmware image before I move it over...
>>>>>
>>>>> Matthew Lavigne
>>>>> Preparing to move to NY....
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Quoting Jim Ray <jim at neuse.net>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Winders has 64 bit versions. I don't use them because too many
>>>>>> apps are broken.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jim Ray, President
>>>>>> Neuse River Networks
>>>>>>
>>>>>> tel: 919-838-1672
>>>>>> http://www.Neuse.Net
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Connecting You to the World since 1997
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: trilug-bounces at trilug.org
>>>>>>> [mailto:trilug-bounces at trilug.org] On Behalf Of Greg Brown
>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2006 11:10 AM
>>>>>>> To: Triangle Linux Users Group discussion list
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [TriLUG] AMD vs. Intel
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You bring up an interesting point. My neighbor just purchased a
>>>>>>> new
>>>>>>> laptop
>>>>>>> that has a 64 bit processor. Can XPee Home even take
>>>>>>> advantage of a 64 bit
>>>>>>> processor?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> She's already fed up with the anti-virus she is using and has
>>>>>>> already asked about Linux (after hearing me yap about it for
>>>>>>> years now). Hopefully she'll pull the trigger and I can intall
>>>>>>> Ubuntu as a social expirement. I'd really like to see how well a
>>>>>>> seriously non-techincal person manages with Ubuntu.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 7/28/06, Kevin Flanagan <kevin at flanagannc.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>> That would have to fall in the "that depends" category.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What would you be doing with the system, for a laptop, I
>>>>>>> see that HP
>>>>>>>> now has a Turion 64Bit laptop, interesting if you could
>>>>>>> take advantage
>>>>>>>> of the processor.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you are using much CPU to Memory transfer intensive
>>>>>>> applications,
>>>>>>>> then AMD has the edge, otherwise I don't think that it
>>>>>>> matters as much.
>>>>>>>> What about the other stuff, that says more in many cases.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What disks are available, SATA, or PATA, or SCSI?
>>>>>>>> What Video subsystem suits your needs best?
>>>>>>>> How much RAM can you get for the system in question?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As usual, there's a lot more to the "best" answer,
>>>>>>> generally I think
>>>>>>>> that if you get a top tier system now it's likely enough for
>>>>>>>> 95% or more of folks, unless you're just that kind of geek who
>>>>>>> needs to spec
>>>>>>>> out every last detail.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Then there's cost.....
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Kevin
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Greg Brown wrote:
>>>>>>>>> It was not long ago at all, just last year, that the
>>>>>>>>> prevailing opinion of those on Trilug seemed to be that AMD
>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>> leading the way
>>>>>>>>> for chip
>>>>>>>> design
>>>>>>>>> for the foreseeable future. With Intel's latest
>>>>>>>>> announcements, along with the Core Duo, I was wondering what
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> consensus opinion
>>>>>>>>> was these days.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If you were going to build a linux desktop or laptop what
>>>>>>> processor
>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>> you pick? Intel, AMD, or something else?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 3.... 2..... 1..... FIGHT!!
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