[TriLUG] AMD vs. Intel
Jason
jason at monsterjam.org
Wed Aug 2 21:52:42 EDT 2006
mmmm optimizations! damn I love gentoo. ;)
ill give it a shot.. thanks.
Jason
On Wed, Aug 02, 2006 at 09:41:25PM -0400,
OlsonE at aosa.army.mil wrote:
> I see you're brave using ~sparc! You also might want to check out glibc-omitfp (which lets glibc decide if its going to use --fomit-frame-pointer or not).
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: trilug-bounces at trilug.org on behalf of Jason
> Sent: Wed 8/2/2006 5:16 PM
> To: Triangle Linux Users Group discussion list
> Subject: Re: [TriLUG] AMD vs. Intel
>
> USE="X gtk2 gnome -esd -arts -alsa jpeg png apache2 php5 mysql qt ssl mjpeg mmx server opengl
> nptl nptlonly a52 avi dvd dvdread divx4linux dv encode frame mpeg ogg mp3 quicktime vorbis xvid
> screen sqlite imap"
>
> jason at spike ~ $ cat /etc/portage/package.keywords
> =app-text/crm114-20060118 ~*
> =dev-libs/tre-0.7.3 ~*
> net-im/naim ~sparc
> net-misc/vpnc ~sparc
> =net-misc/nx-x11-1.5.0-r8 ~*
> net-misc/nxserver-freenx ~*
> net-misc/nxcomp ~*
> sys-fs/udev ~sparc
> app-text/catdoc ~*
> net-p2p/ctorrent ~sparc
>
> Jason
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 02, 2006 at 11:50:24AM -0400, OlsonE at aosa.army.mil wrote:
> > What are you using for:
> >
> > ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=""?
> >
> > How is it working? Are you using a GUI (which one)?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: trilug-bounces at trilug.org [mailto:trilug-bounces at trilug.org] On
> > Behalf Of Jason
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 11:48 AM
> > To: Triangle Linux Users Group discussion list
> > Subject: Re: [TriLUG] AMD vs. Intel
> >
> > I just installed gentoo on a 500Mhz ultrasparc II box.. that count? ;)
> >
> > Jason
> >
> > On Wed, Aug
> > 02, 2006 at 11:09:38AM -0400, Greg Brown wrote:
> > > What ever happened to my Digital Unix box running on 64 bit Alpha
> > chips?
> > > And that was 1995 or 1996. One would think we would be further down
> > > the 64 bit path by this point.
> > >
> > > On 8/2/06, OlsonE at aosa.army.mil <OlsonE at aosa.army.mil> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >Jim,
> > > >
> > > >Same issues here with x64 as well. What a shame. I'll be content once
> > > >x64 Linux is a little more mainstream (and less buggy).
> > > >
> > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > >From: trilug-bounces at trilug.org [mailto:trilug-bounces at trilug.org] On
> >
> > > >Behalf Of Jim Ray
> > > >Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 5:38 PM
> > > >To: Triangle Linux Users Group discussion list
> > > >Subject: Re: [TriLUG] AMD vs. Intel
> > > >
> > > >yes, really. not that anyone cares to discuss winders in this group;
> >
> > > >however, symantec antivirus corporate edition as well as winder's own
> >
> > > >WSUS puke hard with 64 bit Windows 2003 Server.
> > > >
> > > >from a server point of view, that's a show stopper and very specific.
> > > >WinXP64 is not a server OS. i'll defer judgement on 64 bit desktops
> > > >to others since the majority of my customers have 32 bit hardware and
> >
> > > >don't care.
> > > >
> > > >all the best for a happy and safe move to NY just the same, though.
> > > >
> > > >Regards,
> > > >
> > > >Jim
> > > >
> > > >Jim Ray, President
> > > >Neuse River Networks
> > > >2610 Vanderbilt Ave.
> > > >Raleigh, NC 27607-7247
> > > >
> > > >tel: 919-838-1672
> > > >cell: 919-606-1772
> > > >http://www.Neuse.Net
> > > >
> > > >Connecting You to the World since 1997
> > > >
> > > >Matthew Lavigne wrote:
> > > >> Really? I have only seen that basically anything that runs as a
> > > >> service looks for 64 bit and then dies (namely Antivirus). In my
> > > >> old shop (yes, it is not mine anymore) we installed and ran
> > > >> everything as
> > > >> 32 bit with the exception of antivirus. In the course of 24 months
> >
> > > >> we
> > > >
> > > >> have never had a conflict where an application acted badly other
> > > >> then trying to install again a 32 bit antivirus on WinXP64.
> > > >>
> > > >> A little more qualification would be nice rather then
> > > >> generalizations,
> > > >
> > > >> especially if you have some known bad applications.
> > > >>
> > > >> Personally I have found very little that would force me to 64 bit
> > > >> Windows though the workstation that I have (along with the 6GB of
> > > >> system memory) would drive me to. It is not difficult to use the
> > > >> /PAE
> > > >
> > > >> switch or several others to push the memory limits around
> > > >> (especially if you have Xeon CPUs).
> > > >>
> > > >> This box isn't linux yet cause there is too much that I need to
> > > >> convert to a vmware image before I move it over...
> > > >>
> > > >> Matthew Lavigne
> > > >> Preparing to move to NY....
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Quoting Jim Ray <jim at neuse.net>:
> > > >>
> > > >>> Winders has 64 bit versions. I don't use them because too many
> > > >>> apps are broken.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Jim Ray, President
> > > >>> Neuse River Networks
> > > >>>
> > > >>> tel: 919-838-1672
> > > >>> http://www.Neuse.Net
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Connecting You to the World since 1997
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> -----Original Message-----
> > > >>>> From: trilug-bounces at trilug.org
> > > >>>> [mailto:trilug-bounces at trilug.org] On Behalf Of Greg Brown
> > > >>>> Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2006 11:10 AM
> > > >>>> To: Triangle Linux Users Group discussion list
> > > >>>> Subject: Re: [TriLUG] AMD vs. Intel
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> You bring up an interesting point. My neighbor just purchased a
> > > >>>> new
> > > >
> > > >>>> laptop
> > > >>>> that has a 64 bit processor. Can XPee Home even take
> > > >>>> advantage of a 64 bit
> > > >>>> processor?
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> She's already fed up with the anti-virus she is using and has
> > > >>>> already asked about Linux (after hearing me yap about it for
> > > >>>> years now). Hopefully she'll pull the trigger and I can intall
> > > >>>> Ubuntu as a social expirement. I'd really like to see how well a
> >
> > > >>>> seriously non-techincal person manages with Ubuntu.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> On 7/28/06, Kevin Flanagan <kevin at flanagannc.net> wrote:
> > > >>>> >
> > > >>>> > That would have to fall in the "that depends" category.
> > > >>>> >
> > > >>>> >
> > > >>>> > What would you be doing with the system, for a laptop, I
> > > >>>> see that HP
> > > >>>> > now has a Turion 64Bit laptop, interesting if you could
> > > >>>> take advantage
> > > >>>> > of the processor.
> > > >>>> >
> > > >>>> > If you are using much CPU to Memory transfer intensive
> > > >>>> applications,
> > > >>>> > then AMD has the edge, otherwise I don't think that it
> > > >>>> matters as much.
> > > >>>> >
> > > >>>> > What about the other stuff, that says more in many cases.
> > > >>>> >
> > > >>>> > What disks are available, SATA, or PATA, or SCSI?
> > > >>>> > What Video subsystem suits your needs best?
> > > >>>> > How much RAM can you get for the system in question?
> > > >>>> >
> > > >>>> >
> > > >>>> > As usual, there's a lot more to the "best" answer,
> > > >>>> generally I think
> > > >>>> > that if you get a top tier system now it's likely enough for
> > > >>>> > 95% or more of folks, unless you're just that kind of geek who
> > > >>>> needs to spec
> > > >>>> > out every last detail.
> > > >>>> >
> > > >>>> > Then there's cost.....
> > > >>>> >
> > > >>>> >
> > > >>>> >
> > > >>>> > Kevin
> > > >>>> >
> > > >>>> >
> > > >>>> >
> > > >>>> >
> > > >>>> >
> > > >>>> >
> > > >>>> > Greg Brown wrote:
> > > >>>> > > It was not long ago at all, just last year, that the
> > > >>>> > > prevailing opinion of those on Trilug seemed to be that AMD
> > > >>>> > > was
> > > >>>> leading the way
> > > >>>> > > for chip
> > > >>>> > design
> > > >>>> > > for the foreseeable future. With Intel's latest
> > > >>>> > > announcements, along with the Core Duo, I was wondering what
> > > >>>> > > the
> > > >>>> consensus opinion
> > > >>>> > > was these days.
> > > >>>> > >
> > > >>>> > > If you were going to build a linux desktop or laptop what
> > > >>>> processor
> > > >>>> > would
> > > >>>> > > you pick? Intel, AMD, or something else?
> > > >>>> > >
> > > >>>> > > 3.... 2..... 1..... FIGHT!!
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