[TriLUG] RE: This is what happens when a OS company, shoots its self in the foot (MS Vista)

[tomed at bellsouth.net]

Something like

lpr <
%%%Adobe PS 
\postscript commands
CTRL-D

Yessir, a sign of a real tough guy. Or you could write the postscript
with ed; that would get you into the tough guy club.

Tom Ed

At Fri, 29 Dec 2006 13:19:06 -0500 (EST),
William Sutton wrote:
> 
> err...my co-worker says:
> 
> -----
> that's utter BS. Real men write their resumes with "lpr", in PostScript.
> -----
> 
> William
> 
> 
> On Fri, 29 Dec 2006, Matt Frye wrote:
> 
> > ed?  i had higher hopes from an ITS man.  :-P
> > 
> > On 12/28/06, tomed at bellsouth.net <tomed at bellsouth.net> wrote:
> > > Real men write their resumes with ed (vi is for weenies, who needs to
> > > see multiple lines? Can't you remember what you wrote?) and publish
> > > with nroff.
> > >
> > > Tom Ed
> > >
> > > At Thu, 28 Dec 2006 18:31:39 -0500,
> > > Neil L. Little wrote:
> > > >
> > > > It must, however, be written using Open Office when you save it to .doc
> > > > format.
> > > >
> > > > Neil, WA4AZL
> > > > JARS Forever!!
> > > > http://www.jars.net/
> > > >
> > > > > Would you accept resumes in Microsoft Word .doc format?  :p  </tease>  :D
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 12/27/06, Greg Brown <gwbrown1 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> > My opinion differs somewhat.  I think that more people do not use Linux as a
> > > > >> > desktop as Linux is not ready to be used as a desktop system.  Linux in the
> > > > >> > data center and on the back-end makes sense.  As Jim pointed out you don't
> > > > >> > have to buy any CALs to put up any kind of server and that is a huge benefit
> > > > >> > for any business, large or small.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > On the other hand a Linux desktop system just feels like a big kludge.
> > > > >> > Desktops have improved over the years but they are not to the level of
> > > > >> > functionality or ease of use that windows or even os x is at today.  I do
> > > > >> > agree that Matt's opinion that lack of leadership is one reason that people
> > > > >> > haven't moved to Linux but it wasn't because someone dragged them down the
> > > > >> > Linux path kicking and screaming and force-fed them a desktop that wasn't
> > > > >> > going to work for them.  Leadership needs to resolve a lot of these "GNOME
> > > > >> > is the rulz while KDE is the big sux" BS.  Why do you think that OS X looks,
> > > > >> > feels, and runs as well as it does?  I suggest it was the iron fist of Steve
> > > > >> > Jobs DEMANDING that his developers produced a usable system.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Anyhoo, that is just my opinion.  If I were to start a company today I'd
> > > > >> > most likely have Mac desktops and Linux servers on the back-end (depending
> > > > >> > on what my company was doing of course).
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > On 12/27/06, Matt Frye <mattfrye at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> > >
> > > > >>> > > On 12/26/06, Cristobal Palmer <cristobalpalmer at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>> > > > It honestly isn't about lack of common sense. It's about sensemaking
> > > > >>>> > > > of your options.
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>> > >
> > > > >>> > > With specific respect to Linux, a few more reasons why many more
> > > > >>> > > people haven't dumped Windows are:
> > > > >>> > >
> > > > >>> > > 1) Lack of leadership - People are sheep.  Without a leader,
> > > > >>> > > rebellions don't get off the ground.  The open source MO doesn't
> > > > >>> > > support clear leadership and when leaders could emerge, they are
> > > > >>> > > either making deals with M$ to save their own ass (Novell) or exude so
> > > > >>> > > much ambivalence (Red Hat) that it's a real turn off.  Much fewer
> > > > >>> > > people feel empowered as a result.
> > > > >>> > >
> > > > >>> > > 2) Design goals are backward - This is a point I made on the Open
> > > > >>> > > Source Now list
> > > > >>> > > (
> > > > >>> > > https://www.redhat.com/archives/open-source-now-list/2004-August/msg00015.html
> > > > >>> > > )
> > > > >>> > > about 2 1/2 years ago.  The open source typically produces two kinds
> > > > >>> > > of software:
> > > > >>> > >      a) software written for developers or their friends
> > > > >>> > >      b) knockoffs of proprietary software
> > > > >>> > >
> > > > >>> > > With a few notable exceptions, the open source community fails to
> > > > >>> > > produce truly awesome products.  Part of the problem is the "scratch
> > > > >>> > > an itch" basis upon which open source projects often come into being
> > > > >>> > > and the Unixy "do one thing well" approach.  It's fine that the sort
> > > > >>> > > command doesn't read my mail or tell me what time it is, but that's
> > > > >>> > > just why it's no fertile garden for innovation.
> > > > >>> > >
> > > > >>> > > Lack of innovation perpetuates itself right down to the activist
> > > > >>> > > level.  We find ourselves selling Grandma on Linux because "it's just
> > > > >>> > > like windows."  In the end, people who would use Linux aren't
> > > > >>> > > interested in your dissertation on freedom, and they interpret "lack
> > > > >>> > > of innovation" as "apathy."
> > > > >>> > >
> > > > >>> > > Ultimately, what you do inside an OS is *way* more important than what
> > > > >>> > > OS you do it on.  Web 2.0 is proof of this.  This is why M$ now fears
> > > > >>> > > Google more than Linux.  Tools will eclipse OS as an important
> > > > >>> > > battleground and that's where real innovation starts.
> > > > >>> > >
> > > > >>> > > So, if Windows puts bread on your table, fine.  Entrepreneurs often
> > > > >>> > > can't turn away business because customer wants Windows.  And why
> > > > >>> > > would they?
> > > > >>> > >
> > > > >>> > > When it comes to being tech support for friends and family, I teach a
> > > > >>> > > man to fish.  I don't have time to fish for them and I already
> > > > >>> > > volunteer with Linux.  OS has nothing to do with it.
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