[TriLUG] OT: your RTP commute? my office is relocating to RTP from Cary

Thu Mar 8 08:33:53 EST 2007

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> 
> Vote Elfick for president in 2012! (or maybe 2016 depending on how I  
> feel)
> 
> On Mar 8, 2007, at 1:41 AM, Jeremy Portzer wrote:
> 
> >
> >I agree with David, the proximate cause can be blamed squarely on  
> >the TTA
> >- they failed to get their ducks in a row in time, before the Federal
> >Transit Administration changed the rules for federal funding.
> >
> >However, in a larger scope, many feel the Bush administration (not to
> >mention the little detail called Congress) should be increasing the
> >overall funds made available for transit projects.  The reason the  
> >FTA has
> >made the rules harsher is because there is a limited pot of money  
> >and they
> >must dole it out fairly.  Charlotte's project was approved earlier  
> >and is
> >more cost-effective according to the rules.  I think the FTA is  
> >doing a
> >good job of being fair about it - keep in mind that even northern  
> >Virginia
> >can't find a way around the rules as they pertain to the Metro's  
> >westward
> >expansion (Silver Line project).  That project had to make major  
> >changes -
> >ugly elevated track instead of a tunnel - because of the FTA
> >cost-effectiveness rules.
> >
> >There are many cities getting in the game for limited federal transit
> >funds.  Other regions realized before the Triangle did that public  
> >transit
> >is energy efficient and worth spending money on it, and frankly, other
> >areas have better urban planning that allows such a project to be cost
> >effective.  But this is probably oversimplifying.
> >
> >This is way way OT.  I don't think the trains even would run Linux :(
> >Maybe the internetworkers list is a place this could be discussed  
> >if folks
> >want to continue.
> >
> >--Jeremy
> >
> >On Wed, 7 Mar 2007, David McDowell wrote:
> >
> >>Magnus, Tom Ed is right in at least one way, b/c federal funding has
> >>been granted to the Charlotte project, which irks the piss out of me.
> >>RALEIGH is the capitol city, yo respect us, you damn federal  
> >>lackies!!
> >> Oh, but Charlotte is graced with more banking and taller buildings
> >>than we are... whoooptee.  OK, ranting sorry.  The point is, the TTA
> >>was slow... too slow by the feds terms.  The feds up'd the req's
> >>before TTA got their stuff turned in making it even more difficult  
> >>for
> >>TTA to meet the fed req's, thus failure to get the federal part of  
> >>the
> >>funding needed for the project.  Of course, I have my own ideas about
> >>how completely screwed up TTA's phase I was conceived.  Who links 2
> >>central downtowns???  Rail is to move people from the outside in and
> >>back out again... or around, not between.  For example, why in hell
> >>would someone in downtown Raleigh wanna just "hop on the train" to go
> >>to a bar in Durham when there are gobs in Raleigh?
> >>
> >>anyway, this thread is going so far off from my office location.  At
> >>least I can say the TTA's rail plan was it is/was would have gone  
> >>past
> >>NCSU (my station) to the huge Miami (RTP Central) station which would
> >>have actually been perfect for this upcoming office move.  Ah well.
> >>:(
> >>
> >>thanks jmack for your drive time estimates.  Today I tried  
> >>something a
> >>little more creative... Tryon -> Cary Parkway -> 54 as a test run...
> >>not bad... but no clue what it will be like during rush hour.  *sigh*
> >>I love my condo and how cheap it is.  I don't wanna move!!
> >>
> >>later folks!
> >>David
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>On 3/7/07, Magnus <magnus at trilug.org> wrote:
> >>>Tom Ed White wrote:
> >>>>The denial of funding can be traced directly to our democratically
> >>>>elected president, George W. Bush.
> >>>
> >>>Hmmm I'm no fan of the talking monkey myself but in all fairness  
> >>>he can
> >>>hardly be blamed for what is entirely a local/state matter.   
> >>>There is no
> >>>reason that taxpayers in South Dakota should foot the bill for a  
> >>>train
> >>>in Raleigh.
> >>>
> >>>The local guys are the ones you should be grabbing by the ears and
> >>>demanding better answers from.  Right on up to the governor.
> >>>
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