[TriLUG] Palm Treo 650 vs 680?

[Jos Purvis]

On 5/30/07, Tanner Lovelace <clubjuggler at gmail.com> wrote:
> What are you trying
> to do with the 650 that you run into memory issues?
> And, as far as the lockups go, what kinds of things were you
> doing when it locked up?

I should have included a disclaimer. I have two things that generally
chew memory on my 650: GoodLink (required by the company for mobile
mail) and a Java environment (for Opera). The latter I've done away
with, which has left me much more comfortable, memory-wise, but it's
still a little tight with only 23MB overall. I think my major
complaint was that several applications will refuse to run (or will
not run properly) when the available memory sinks below a certain
amount, which means carefully juggling things on and off my memory
card to make sure I have enough. My lesser complaint is with the
amount of crap Cingular insists on loading into the Treo and making
undeletable, thus further compromising the amount of available memory.

As far as lockups, I've had them under all kinds of circumstances:
browsing the web, reading email, running various apps...you name it.
They've improved now that I have a bit more memory, so I have a hunch
what I was running into was a lack of heap available for apps.

    --Jos

> On 5/30/07, Jos Purvis <purvis at melete.org> wrote:
> > I currently use a 650 for work, while my wife started with a 650 and
> > now has the 680 due to a timely misplacement of the latter device. :)
> >
> > I've been disappointed with the 650 overall: it's not bad, but it's
> > not long on memory, prone to lockups/resets, the camera has some
> > brightness issues, and the antenna is rather prone to breakage. The
> > 680 improves some of that: it seems less reset-prone, there is no
> > antenna to break, the UI has been improved in significant ways, and
> > it's got a lot more memory. It's not a *huge* improvement--more like
> > the 680 is what the 650 really should have been.
> >
> > Can't comment on Linux syncing, as all of our sync machines are Macs, currently.
> >
> > Just my $0.02...
> >
> >     --Jos
> >
> > On 5/30/07, Brian Daniels <bitmage at pobox.com> wrote:
> > > On Wed, May 30, 2007 at 02:44:54PM -0400, Tanner Lovelace wrote:
> > > > Following up to the previous Treo thread, I was wondering if there's
> > > > anyone here that can talk about their experiences and compare the
> > > > Treo 650 to the 680.  I've been looking at the 680 but my Mom just
> > > > offered me her 650 for a very good price.
> > > >
> > > > Oh, and to make this on topic, how well does it work with Linux?
> > > > What do you use to sync it?  What are some tips and tricks?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks in advance!
> > > >
> > >
> > > I used a 650 for a year, but have never tried the 680.  No problems syncing to
> > > Linux with the http://www.pilot-link.org/ Pilot-link command line tools.  This
> > > does a full backup of the unit, which is all I wanted - I didn't try to sync it
> > > with a local calendar/address book.
> > >
> > > The 650 is somewhat low on memory and reset-prone.  The 680 may improve that.
> > >
> > > I'm currently using a 700p which I'm happy with, but there are still some issues
> > > with Bluetooth and web browsing.  There's supposed to be a firmware update this
> > > week, which 700p users have been waiting for since the release of the device.
> > >
> > > --Brian
> > >
> > >
> > > --
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> > > With foreign quarrels; that action, hence borne out,
> > > May waste the memory of the former days.
> > >                         Henry IV, Part 2
> > >
> > >
> > > Brian Daniels                  bitmage at pobox.com
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