[TriLUG] TWC latency issues
Neil L. Little
nllittle at embarqmail.com
Tue Aug 14 23:08:44 EDT 2007
Concord Telecom Corp. They are out of Charlotte er.. Condord, NC
The have a fiber backbone that runs up US64 to Raleigh
Tim Jowers wrote:
> Who is CTC?
>
>
> On 8/13/07, Neil L. Little <nllittle at embarqmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Yes they want you to call so they can send in their customer engineer
>> and pitch fiber.
>>
>> They told us that their "node" was full and were not planning on
>> building out another.
>> As it turned out the office building we were moving into was contracted
>> with CTC.
>>
>> Ended up with a 5mbps bridged DSL connection (tests out at 6.8mbps) and
>> a block of 6 static
>> IPs for much less than we would have spent going with TWC.
>>
>> Neil Little, WA4AZL
>> JARS Forever!!
>>
>>
>> OlsonE at aosa.army.mil wrote:
>>
>>> I don't think so ...but I've looked at TW Business Class as a viable
>>> solution to my bandwidth being so pi** poor. I don't mind paying a
>>> little more, but they better pony up the service.
>>>
>>> How is it cost-wise? I've tried to get info off their website, but they
>>> want you to "call".
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: trilug-bounces at trilug.org [mailto:trilug-bounces at trilug.org] On
>>> Behalf Of J.C. Jones
>>> Sent: Monday, August 13, 2007 9:02 AM
>>> To: Triangle Linux Users Group discussion list
>>> Subject: Re: [TriLUG] TWC latency issues
>>>
>>> Is there a distinction between Time-Warner Business Class and Road
>>> Runner mentioned in this thread. I am at present in negotiation with
>>> Time Warner Business class and would like to know if any of this thread
>>> really relates to that service.
>>>
>>> jcj
>>>
>>> Thomas wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Near Crossroads, Cary (for High Speed online) Download - 4314 kbps
>>>> Upload - 121 kbps
>>>>
>>>> *TWC package as advertised*
>>>>
>>>> Road Runner Turbo ($44.95)
>>>> Download - upto 8000 kbps
>>>> Upload - upto 512 kbps
>>>>
>>>> Road Runner High Speed online ($34.95)
>>>> Download - 5000 kbps
>>>> Upload - 384 kbps
>>>>
>>>> Road Runner Lite ($29.95)
>>>> Download - 1500 kbps
>>>> Upload - 256 kbps
>>>>
>>>> Road Runner Lite 768 ($24.95)
>>>> Download - 768 kbps
>>>> Upload - 128 kbps
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 8/11/07, Reginald Reed <reginald.reed at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Morrisville on the 8M down/512K up service:
>>>>>
>>>>> 7146 kbps down
>>>>> 484 kbps down
>>>>>
>>>>> On 8/10/07, Greg Brown <gwbrown1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> A new record low on the NC Outer Banks:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2654k down
>>>>>> 34k up
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, that is NOT a typo: 34k up.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 8/10/07, Neil L. Little <nllittle at embarqmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> NC is currently 16th in the US as far as bandwidth goes
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 73,
>>>>>>> Neil Little, WA4AZL
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tim Jowers wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I believe the toastnet and other download servers to be gamed
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>> (cached).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> regularly get 600K download speed (peak starts around 1.5Mb and
>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> drops
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> after 10 seconds or so. I very often get 10-20 seconds page load
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> latency.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Install the FF plugin to see how long each page takes to load.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've looked very hard for an alternative. I tried BellSouth for a
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>> few
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> months
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> but saw zero improvements in upload plus they block SMTP port.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>> Download
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> about the same as well. Argh! The next thing I've found (A DSL
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>> reseller
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> doubt) is $115/month. AT&T's contractor, Team Net, laid fiber down
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>> my
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> street
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> probably for the Uverse service they are rolling out next year but
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>> the
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> only
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> thing they are selling now is a resell of DSL or cable.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Case in short, this in supposed to be some special high tech
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>> center
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> the Internet bandwidths and performance are a joke. No fiber to the
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>> home
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> one would expect. If NC, RTP, or Raleigh want to be known for being
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>> technologically savvy and/or progressive then its time to get off
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>> our
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>> butts and lay some fiber. Due to the good-ole-boy system normally
>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> place
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> to get permits, one probably needs to partner with the cities. My
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> proposal
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> is to lay it down in one or two select areas here to show the
>>>>>>>> state/city/area has some commitment to operating in a modern
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>> networking
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>> environment. It's not like we will be breaking any ground here...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>> FTTH
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> common elsewhere in the world. I'm tired of being in a technology
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> backwater
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> WRT networking.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> IMO,
>>>>>>>> TimJowers
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 8/9/07, OlsonE at aosa.army.mil <OlsonE at aosa.army.mil> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Can you host a website from your house with Earthlink (port 80). I
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>> was
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> told by the RR dudes, I could, and if the port was blocked, use a
>>>>>>>>> different one.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From: trilug-bounces at trilug.org [mailto:trilug-bounces at trilug.org]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>> On
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Magnus
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 1:53 PM
>>>>>>>>> To: Triangle Linux Users Group discussion list
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [TriLUG] TWC latency issues
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> OlsonE at aosa.army.mil wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Is their b/w comparable? Currently, I have RR Premium (which
>>>>>>>>>> isn't
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> so
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "premium").
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The offerings are, IIRC, identical. I even have a static IP (with
>>>>>>>>> surcharge) and no filtered inbound ports. Outbound port 25 is
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> filtered,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> forcing me to use Earthlink as a relay, but that has been working
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>> fine
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> the last couple of years for me.
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