[TriLUG] Rant: VISTA OMG PLEASE SHOOT ME

[Mark Freeze]

We have installed a copy of Vista Business for one of our employees to
use and have not had any real problems. (Although the box is probably
under-utilized.)

I have had limited contact with the box but I'll also chime in that
the double-ask thing is annoying. How do you turn it off?

I can say that Vista is definitely slower than XP.  We have a software
package that runs two or three times faster on XP than on Vista. The
XP box even has much older and slower hardware, but still outruns the
Vista box with all of its brand new hardware when running the same
application.

Regards,
Mark

On 9/7/07, Andrew C. Oliver <acoliver at buni.org> wrote:
> On Fri, 2007-09-07 at 06:08 -0400, OlsonE at aosa.army.mil wrote:
> > I don't use Cygwin, so I can't comment on #1. I cannot say I've
> > experienced #2, and I've been using Vista Ultimate since its release
> > (and the 64-bit version to boot).
> >
>
> It seems to be based on different file locking semantics than previous
> releases and different things that aren't set up to deal with it puke.
>
> > Concerning #3, UAC was put there for a very good reason. Now, if you
> > don't want your users to have added security, simply turn it off, and
> > that issue's resolved. Sure it's annoying, but you get the exact same
> > thing on a Mac, just the dialog box asking for your password does not
> > take focus.
> >
>
> But it asks TWICE.  It has been a little while since I used OSX
> regularly, but it never did that to me.  Where do you turn that off?
>
> Also sometimes it tells me I have to have administrator rights...WHEN I
> HAVE administrator rights!
>
> > I have not had an issue with #4 yet, but not all hardware changes
> > require re-activation.
> >
> > I also do not use WinZip, I personally feel that it sucks. I use 7-zip
> > or WinRAR instead.
> >
>
> I didn't pick it, it is a "standard install" for some places...
>
> You're like only the second person I've talked to who wasn't beating
> their head against the table...
>
> -andy
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: trilug-bounces at trilug.org [mailto:trilug-bounces at trilug.org] On
> > Behalf Of Andrew C. Oliver
> > Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 12:42 AM
> > To: trilug at trilug.org
> > Subject: [TriLUG] Rant: VISTA OMG PLEASE SHOOT ME
> >
> > So I've been doing a little side work and this has put me in contact
> > with Windows Vista.  My god this is an unpleasant little operating
> > system.  Not only does it needlessly move everything around like every
> > other Windows NT release, but it seems mainly to be hell bent on
> > ANNOYING THE FREAKING HELL OUT OF USERS and making Windows XP look
> > really good by comparison!
> >
> > Top 5 most annoying things that make me want to carpet bomb Redmond, WA
> > (sorry Tanner, but I've just read "Mao: the unknown story" and so "land
> > reform" is on the mind):
> >
> > 1. Cygwin is broken: if you write to files especially with vi (other
> > editors are similarly affected but they aren't relevant), Vista will
> > exclusively lock them and not release them 2. Vista may lock your files
> > anyhow for no obvious reason.  If you use eclipse then even after
> > exiting eclipse, you cannot edit eclipse.ini directly.  (It could be
> > that you must just reboot first)  copy it to another directory, delete
> > the original, edit the copy, copy it back...otherwise it will act as if
> > the file is read only or there is a permission problem or something
> > (none of the above were true and it wasn't open anywhere else).
> > 3. Are you sure you want to do elementary task?  YES.  Blur the
> > background (which takes a moment where the screen goes black) "Allow XX
> > to do elementary task?" (like the mac commercial) YES DAMMIT!
> > 4. You have installed some rudimentary periphery that wasn't a flash
> > drive, you must reauthorize vista (this doesn't appear to be in the
> > corporate version apparently as only home users are pirates haha) 5.
> > Winzip something in Vista that has a lot of stuff and some multi-level
> > directories...  unzip it on XP "Bla cannot find XYZ file that you just
> > unzipped".  XP->Vista works.
> >
> > The cygwin issue and the "are you sure, are you really sure" prompts are
> > the biggest for me.  They make my Linux driver annoyances with my
> > temporary laptop that I bought because my MBP is in the shop again look
> > rather minor.  (I got intel graphics card, atheros wireless, intel sound
> > -- but the version of the atheros isn't supported even by the HEAD of
> > the atheros driver [ndiswrapper works] and the graphics card isn't
> > working with the projector here but it very well could be the projector
> > and I haven't looked into sound yet).
> >
> > So I'm glad when my wife broke her laptop that I immediately wiped vista
> > and "upgraded" her to XP (her school work is all MS Office and she keeps
> > the books).  So XP wasn't my preference, I'm a linux junkie, but I
> > didn't find it especially unpleasant to use (just slow) when using
> > Cygwin...but Vista...OMG Vista....  MS needs some SERIOUS purging!
> >
> > I wish we could do like a Linux ad with side by side Ubuntu and Vista...
> >
> > -Andy
> >
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