[TriLUG] Red Hat System Admin class

[Matthew Lavigne]

Being from NY had nothing to do with it cause I am from Upstate, not the
city, so it is a whole different place, I am the way that I am because I
learned in the Army how to be effective and I have one of those pleasant
type "A" personalities.  Also when something goes out the door with your
name on it, or you own the responsibility to the business to see that
something is done right, then you have the responsibility to make it
happen.  Mr Nice Guy doesn't always get it right, Mr @ssh0le generally does.


Matthew

On 11/9/07, Scott Lambdin <lopaki at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> You really are from NY.
>
> On 11/9/07, Matthew Lavigne <lavigne at thosebastards.net> wrote:
> >
> > On 11/8/07, Greg Cox <glcox at pobox.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Thu, 8 Nov 2007, Nick Goldwater wrote:
> > >
> > > <snip>
> >
> > Y'know, I was thinking about that as an interview question.  If
> > > posed at $WORK, you'd approve a DBA and a Weblogic admin who happen to
> > > spend inordinate amounts of time tuning Beryl, while eliminating 6-7
> > > of 8 sysadmins (most of whom run OSX on the desktop, or just took
> > > default settings of Ubuntu).
> >
> >
> > Not in my shop, everyone had to prove their worth and the fact that they
> > had
> > to be team players.  The biggest problem that I had was once I hired
> > someone
> > and got them trained, any of serveral other depts would try to "pick"
> them
> > up as they would then have a much more rounded skill set, but I was
> lucky
> > in
> > about 5 yrs I had about 4 people that moved on out of the team to better
> > positions/teams within IBM and usually found a good replacement.
> >
> >
> > > I dunno, I'm not a fan of the RHCE exam as a measure of usefulness in
> > > the office.  It's likely going to come down to "what do you need
> > > on this job?"
> >
> >
> > True that is what a probation period is for, plus that is why each of
> the
> > team members got to interact with the candidate, so that I could use
> their
> > gut opinion on them.  If 5 of 6 team members are not impressed then the
> > boss
> > OUGHT to listen cause there is some sort of undercurrent.
> >
> > and maybe there's some shop that needs exactly what an
> > > RHCE learns.  I GUESS being certified to fix CUPS on a RHEL box while
> > > rassafrassa SELINUX=enforcing is useful.. somewhere..
> >
> >
> > SELINUX==EVIL
> >
> >
> >
> > In hiring, I like to see more skillz in hetrogenous environments (to
> > > say nothing of the candidate passing the "would I ever go have a beer
> > > with them?" test).
> >
> >
> > True
> >
> >
> > Could be that I'm jaded from interviewing an RHCE
> > > who vehemently 'corrected' me when I asked something about vfstab on
> > > a Solaris box.
> >
> >
> > That candidate like server others would have been asked to leave at that
> > point, I didn't (and still don't) tolerate that from a potential team
> > member... But I also made it a point to tell candidates at the beginning
> > of
> > the interview that I was an @ssh0le and that shop ran the way that I
> > wanted
> > it to run that that was not debatable.
> >
> >
> > Matthew.
> >
> > And those of you that know me, know who true that last statement is.
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