[TriLUG] Web Ninja(Developer) Job near RDU

[Robert Dale]

Ninjas don't believe in Jesus, let alone know that he ever existed.

Whatever happened to Jedi?

-- 
Robert Dale

On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 11:18 PM, Greg Cox <glcox at pobox.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 8:59 PM, Tanner Lovelace <clubjuggler at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> It doesn't apply to religious institutions, at least so far as the part
>> about discriminating on the basis of religion.
>
> I'm not seeing how being down with Big J "is a bona fide occupational
> qualification reasonably necessary" to making a web page.  Maybe Web
> 2.0 is more complex than I knew.
>
>
> On Wed, 15 Apr 2009, Cristóbal Palmer wrote:
>>
>> It also doesn't apply to employers with fewer than 15 employees
>
> Their website showed 10 people, of which OP's name wasn't listed.
> It's a fair bet they're over; if not, well, that's at least 11, and
> they're hiring so they're closing in on 15, while performing a
> practice that's pretty sketch.
>
>> Mr. Cox has apparently let his emotions cloud his judgment
>
> No, Mr. Cox hasn't.
>
> Anyone with two brain cells to rub together should be able to figure out
> that if you're going to apply for a place called Marketing MINISTRIES
> that you'd best be down with organized religion to even consider working
> there.
>
> That being said, when they come out and tell me that my difference in
> religion is going to be a factor in a hiring decision, they're going
> over the line, morally if not legally.
>
>> I wish the OP the best of luck in filling the position and would
>> like to apologize for the ugly reception here on this list.
>
> Discriminatory practices are ugly.  If a Flying Spaghetti Monster
> believer can do the job, can stand being an outsider, and doesn't
> wreck office morale, there's no reason to deny them.
>
> Look, anyone who's ever sat on either side of an interview table knows
> you can win or lose an interview based on ANYTHING.  If I'm interviewing
> you and having a bad day, and I don't like you because you're wearing
> pleated pants or your tie stops 6" above your belt buckle, I can still
> find something to gig you on technically to bounce you out of the
> applicant pool (WHAT?  You're 18 and don't have 5 years experience
> with Solaris 2.5.1?!?  GET OUT).  But at least you get an opportunity.
> And while in the grand scheme of things, it's silly to waste time
> interviewing someone who's not going to be a match, really, an
> FSM fan isn't going to want to work there anyway.  So how many
> applicants are you deterring by putting up an explicit sign to
> keep the non-Christians away?
>
>> Having said that, I would encourage the OP to make some statement
>> about compliance with the law in future job postings to preëmptively
>> close the door on accusations like those made by Mr. Cox.
>
> As would I.  Simply say less.  Or ask for a cover letter.  You can
> do that.  A smart applicant would take that opportunity to mention
> how they're on board with your company's mission.
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