[TriLUG] This is not good

[Greg Brown]

"In fact you might interpret the version of Java
in the Google App Engine as the first major fork of Java (that
intentionally deviates from the defacto standard)."

Didn't we already go round and round on this dance with J++ back in the
day?  Or was the problem with J++ was that MS was trying to commercialize a
fork of a open source project?  It was a while ago.. details are fuzzy.

On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 8:28 AM, Shawn Hartsock <hartsock at acm.org> wrote:

> So far the dominant concerns seem to be over MySQL, NetBeans, and
> GlassFish.
>
> Java is fully Open Source now (or really really close thanks to iced
> tea according to the buzz on the TriJUG list) which means Java is
> probably "safe" and it sounds like there is a large enough community
> between IBM, RedHat, and other big players that if Oracle pulled
> something really drastic that left the rest of community behind we
> would see a Java fork. In fact you might interpret the version of Java
> in the Google App Engine as the first major fork of Java (that
> intentionally deviates from the defacto standard).
>
> The reason folks are concerned about MySQL is obviously because Oracle
> has its own DB.
>
> The reason folks are concerned about NetBeans is that Oracle has JBuilder.
>
> The reason folks are concerned about GlassFish is that Oracle has its
> own Application Server.
>
> Each is technology is open sourced meaning that if enough people have
> sour grapes over something Oracle does they can fork it. Obviously the
> best thing to do is to keep the community together. But...
>
> On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 8:27 AM, Lee Fickenscher <elfick at gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 12:27 AM, mgmonza <mgmonza at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Oracle buys MySql:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> http://smoothspan.wordpress.com/2009/04/20/oracle-buys-mysql-java-and-some-other-stuff-now-what/
> >>
> >>
> >> I just can't see Oracle letting the competition to its
> >> multi-thousand-dollar per user per site per release per product software
> run
> >> around free anymore.
> >>
> >>
> >> That leaves PostgreSql as the only free SQL database, I believe.  It's
> too
> >> bad, because at least one agency here that was a heavy user of Oracle
> and
> >> GIS went to MySQL and Minnesota Maps in an effort to save money.
> >>
> >
> > I'm confused. Isn't MySQL licensed under the GPL? If so, why the concern?
> If
> > Oracle kills it, the community just picks up the last GPL release,
> renames
> > it, and drives on. That is one of the big benefits of the GPL.
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