[TriLUG] RTP Local cable-pulling company

[James Jones]

Jim,

Does that estimation include or exclude termination at each end?

jcj

On 1/7/10, Jim Ray <jim at neuse.net> wrote:
> We do managed services and may pull cables for our clients yet aren't
>  really looking for that work. I was trying to help you manage your
>  expectations. The production rate of 1.3 hr per wire holds true in
>  environments with drop in ceilings that are low enough where a lift is
>  not required. So, 30 drops * 4 wires per drop * 1.3 hr per wire yields
>  156 hours.
>
>  So, I'm calling BS on your 3 hour estimate and hate to see anyone get
>  ripped off or misled.
>
>  Now, the first wiring job in this area I did in 1994 moving a business
>  from Zebulon to Knightdale took 3 hours for 5 PCs. For 120 wires? Try
>  156 hours for size. Pretty basic industrial engineering time study.
>
>
>  Regards,
>
>  Jim Ray, President
>  Neuse River Networks tel: 919-838-1672 x111 cell: 919-606-1772
>
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>  -----Original Message-----
>  From: trilug-bounces at trilug.org [mailto:trilug-bounces at trilug.org] On
>  Behalf Of Ron Kelley
>
> Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 4:52 PM
>  To: Triangle Linux Users Group General Discussion
>
> Subject: Re: [TriLUG] RTP Local cable-pulling company
>
>
>  On Jan 6, 2010, at 11:51 AM, Jim Ray wrote:
>
>  > 3 hrs for 30 drops? No way unless you are running multiple crews. You
>  > are looking closer to 120 hrs.
>  >
>  > I would not touch it.
>  >
>
>  Wow, business must be *really good* these days to turn down business
>  without even talking to the client.  Perhaps my estimate was off (I
>  don't do this everyday), but a little understanding would have gone much
>  farther.
>
>  At any rate, thanks for letting me know upfront you are not interested.
>  It makes finding the right vendor (for this job and the next) much
>  easier.
>
>
>  -Ron
>
>
>
>
>
>  > Regards,
>  >
>  > Jim Ray, President
>  > Neuse River Networks tel: 919-838-1672 x111 cell: 919-606-1772
>  >
>  > Web: http://www.neuserivernetworks.com Linkedin:
>  > http://www.linkedin.com/in/neuse Facebook:
>  > http://www.facebook.com/neuseriver Twitter: http://twitter.com/neuse
>  >
>  > Customer Service/Support: Call hotline at 919-838-1672 x117, send
>  email
>  > to support at neuserivernetworks.com or visit
>  > http://www.neuserivernetworks.com/support
>  >
>  >
>  > -----Original Message-----
>  > From: trilug-bounces at trilug.org [mailto:trilug-bounces at trilug.org] On
>  > Behalf Of Ron Kelley
>  > Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 11:15 AM
>  > To: Triangle Linux Users Group General Discussion
>  > Subject: [TriLUG] RTP Local cable-pulling company
>  >
>  > Does anyone know of a good and reasonably-priced company that installs
>  > CAT-5 here in RTP?  I have a buddy who is moving his business into a
>  new
>  > building, and we need to get CAT-5 installed in each office.  The
>  > building is just a shell right now, so the installation is pretty
>  easy.
>  > Preferably, the company should be a certified installer as we have to
>  > pass inspection.
>  >
>  > I would do this myself, but we are looking at about 30 drops (4 cables
>  > per drop) in the building which would take me much longer than
>  > necessary.  An experienced set of guys should be able to finish the
>  job
>  > in about 3hrs max.  Depending on price, we may also get the installers
>  > to punch down all wires in the closet and make the necessary
>  wall-plate
>  > connections.
>  >
>  >
>  > Thanks for any pointers...
>  >
>  >
>  > -Ron
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