[TriLUG] OT: URGENT: H.129 to be heard in Thursday's Finance Committee!

[David Hostetler]

"Well, good old American Capitalism has really been working a treat too.
Our school systems are a joke even compared 3rd world nations, our health
care is the most expensive in the world for average at best results, our
existing infrastructure hasn't been updated in > 40 years and all the jobs
have shipped to communist nations.  Of course we have the best damned
stadiums in the world and we pay a bunch of school flunkies billions to
run around chasing balls."

Sadly, we have been using capitalism in its purest form since the early
1900's.

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Dave Hostetler
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hostetler.david at gmail.com


On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 3:44 PM, <matt at noway2.thruhere.net> wrote:

> > The first thing you need is infrastructure to support your customers.
> > This, obviously, is not inexpensive.  If the government stepped in and
> lets say created monopoly laws that prevent these larger companies from
> restricting
> > in any way competitors from using the infrastructure in place.  Who would
> > put up the capital to put the infrastructure in place when they know that
> > someone can just come along and use what they put in?
>
> This is why the concept of a regulated monopoly was created.
> Unfortunately thanks to some bright ones in congress we have a system of
> unregulated monopolies.  Yeah, sure free markets and competition.  The
> thing is they only work when you have indistinguishable products.
>
> > Going back to your government has all the answers idea, I personally
> don't
> > want to pay for Bob down the street who can't keep a job for more than a
> > week to have internet access.
>
> This is not what is being discussed or proposed.  What is at odds is
> whether or not the govt should be allowed to compete in this market.  I
> will hazard a guess that the vast majority of the costs associated with an
> ISP are fixed infrastructure costs.  If you distribute this around to all
> of the residents of a community everyone will pay less.
>
> I also don't want to work my ass off so some idiot can fly around in a
> private jet making 300x my salary off my labors either!
>
> I promise you that the moment you start
> > giving things away for free that other people work hard for that the
> house
> > of cards will come down hard and fast.  You should read up on socialist /
> > communist governments and how they all implode before you suggest such
> > silly
> > things.  Take a look at Greece, UK, Italy, and several others in Europe
> to
> > see how well the socialist idea is working out for them.  People will not
> > continue to work themselves to death for someone else to sit on their
> butt
> > all day and get all of the same benefits.  Like wise, 30-40% of the
> > population cannot work to support the other 60-70%, the money runs out at
> > some point.
>
> Well, good old American Capitalism has really been working a treat too.
> Our school systems are a joke even compared 3rd world nations, our health
> care is the most expensive in the world for average at best results, our
> existing infrastructure hasn't been updated in > 40 years and all the jobs
> have shipped to communist nations.  Of course we have the best damned
> stadiums in the world and we pay a bunch of school flunkies billions to
> run around chasing balls.
>
> > P.S. Social Security is the biggest rip off I've ever seen.  Let me keep
> > my
> > own money and invest it for my future.
> >
> Invest?  I would LOVE to see INVESTMENT.  I keep hearing "investors this"
> and "investors that".  I haven't seen INVESTMENT in over a decade.  All I
> see is betting and speculation in the stock market.  F'ing day-traders but
> NO investors.  You put your funds in there and some trader makes it go up
> and down, sucking your money off in the process.  I will take my social
> security, thank you very much - and give me some socialized medicine while
> your at it.  You can have your health insurance.
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