[TriLUG] IPv6 workshop

Kevin Otte nivex at nivex.net
Fri Apr 15 22:43:22 EDT 2011


On 04/15/2011 07:38 PM, Greg Cox wrote:

> If only there were this non-real-time collaborative tool... like a list
> that mail can go to....

The problem is that non-real-time. When I gave my presentation in
August, the "homework assignment" I gave out was to go home and set up a
tunnel to start experimenting. At the next month's meeting, I asked
everyone who had done so to raise their hand. Not a single one went up.

This thread is evidence that there is interest, but time is a scarce
commodity. By allocating a time and saying "I'm going to sit down and do
this" along with some peers, you ensure that it will happen.

> Now, I fully admit this is not as sexy as fully embracing that whole
> openness thing.

I certainly didn't get into networking to get laid. Not once have I
walked up to a woman and said "I know IPv6" and had her jump all over
me. (Yes, I abhor the overuse of "sexy" as a marketing term. Can you tell?)

But seriously, you are absolutely right. This is inglorious work. Those
of us who actually like to geek out on this stuff are pretty rare. The
rest of the world has come to expect the Internet to Just Work™
Figuring out how to make it all work so the rest don't even notice is
the crux of the problem.

To address the openness issue (as well as the other issues you've
raised) head on, I highly recommend you watch this LinuxConf AU keynote
by Geoff Huston.

http://linuxconfau.blip.tv/file/4692762/

> I'm getting tired of v6 talk

Less talk, more action would be great.  Hence the workshop.

> when I see little in transition plans that work with the reality that
> (a) services beside ping still exist

Reality is a fluid thing, which is why the original transition plan (you
know: actually get IPv6 deployed *before* we ran out of IPv4 addresses)
isn't the one we're on now.

As for services besides ping: Google is IPv6 enabled. Facebook is IPv6
enabled. There are plenty of others.

> ...

I thank you for bringing up these questions. Making sure all of these
issues get addressed is vitally important, even if it does mean things
take a little longer. Keep at it; we'll get there :)

-- Kevin



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