[TriLUG] OT: PT One tech issue from tonight's debate
Joseph Mack NA3T
jmack at wm7d.net
Fri Oct 19 15:59:32 EDT 2012
On Fri, 19 Oct 2012, Chris Merrill wrote:
> And why shouldn't they do that? That is their job, after
> all (delivering value to their stockholders).
It's not true at now and never has been. The only
obligations a company has to its shareholders occur at
bankruptcy.
Until the '50's, shareholders got their value through
dividends rather than in increases in share prices. The
american economy was based in manufacturing businesses with
long horizons. Somewhere in there people realised that you
could make money out of owning shares in businesses that
grew. This was fine as long as you could pick the ones that
grew, before they grew. This wasn't hard with the right
amount of inside information. Over the next couple of
decades, money poured into businesses that grew and provided
unstable employment and out of stable businesses with stable
employment. Steel left the country.
Companies can't grow forever; the successful ones become
stable, are denigrated as "old" industries, ie failures and
have to leave the country; the real failures crash and burn.
You sold your shares before either of these happened and
looked for the next new exiting growth industry. The stock
market became a game based around growth industries. Those
who played the game correctly, made many more times the
money of those working in the companies whose shares they
owned. Just before the 2007-8 crash a large fraction (25%?)
of the economy, was just shifting money around. Nothing was
being produced, but lots of money was made doing it. Now the
money was being made in the stockmarket and not by people
working hard and sometimes being rewarded for it. The
business of the real business whose shares you owned became
only a secondary interest. The real action was in the
stockmarket. How much of the market cap of Apple does Apple
control? I expect not much. The tail is wagging the dog.
Management played the game too. If they could hit short term
targets, possibly by creative bookkeeping, and the shares
went up, they would get all sorts of positive press in the
business pages and the right shareholders would make out
like bandits. Management would be congratulated for their
wisdom and prescience and would have no choice but to give
themselves a raise. There was no need to wait 5 or 10yrs to
see the long term consequences of their decisions, the stock
market had proven them right. Management wasn't doing this
to line their pockets; they were doing it to "provide
shareholder value".
That's why the american economy is based on short term goals
and growth industries with unstable employment. It's
delivering value to stockholders.
Joe
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