[TriLUG] The biggest deterrent for women in tech

Esther L estherlist at gmail.com
Wed May 1 22:15:36 EDT 2013


I shall have to look for the Fine and Jordan-Young books.
I have read _Same Difference: How Gender Myths Are Hurting Our
Relationships, Our Children, and Our Jobs_, by Barnett and Rivers.

Esther Lumsdon


On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 6:47 PM, bak <bak at picklefactory.org> wrote:

>
> On May 1, 2013, at 5:38 PM, Danielle <Danielle at whitrel.com> wrote:
>
> > On 2013-05-01 15:42, Linda Gardea wrote:
> >> Interesting read on toys & gender from ny times editorial.  Seems that
> >> gender typing serves capitalism quite well.
> >>
> >>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/23/opinion/sunday/gender-based-toy-marketing-returns.html
> >
> > I particularly like this quote, "That’s ridiculous, of course: it’s
> impossible to neatly disentangle the biological from the social, given that
> children are born into a culture laden with gender messages."
> >
> > This is a point I find to be often missed or, at least, misunderstood,
> in these conversations - it begins early and is heavily comprised by issues
> that are easily dismissed as minor but which are as single flakes of snow
> in an avalanche.
>
> I found Fine's _Delusions of Gender_ and Jordan-Young's _Brain Storm_ to
> be very effective at getting to the root of the neuroscience behind "men
> and women have different brains". Fascinating reads.
>
> There isn't much, if any, evidence to support strong claims made by folks
> talking about "traditionally this way" and "naturally different".
>
> --bak
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