[TriLUG] Google Fiber

Aaron Joyner aaron at joyner.ws
Thu Jan 29 10:49:06 EST 2015


Never underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon full of tapes.

On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 1:18 AM, Peter Neilson <neilson at windstream.net>
wrote:

> On Wed, 28 Jan 2015 23:48:11 -0500, William Sutton <william at trilug.org>
> wrote:
>
>  +1.  Having been a Comcast customer (I would say "disgruntled", but that
>> would be redundant), and having used HughesNet at my in-laws', as much as I
>> hate Comcast, you would die of old age waiting for data to come back over
>> Hughes.  Even ssh over Hughes is terribly slow.  Nevermind something like
>> Flash....
>>
>
> Testimonials at the Hughesnet website indicate that their customers enjoy
> having something faster than dial-up. They don't mention satellite's
> round-trip delay.
>
> Could anything be worse?
>
> Some of us remember the days when 20 WPM CW over ham radio was considered
> fast. Hold a minute while I convert that to a baud rate... ummmm, on second
> thought, perhaps someone else has already done the math... Hah! Here it is,
> from W8JI:
> http://www.w8ji.com/cw_bandwidth_described.htm
>
> 60 WPM is perhaps about 50 baud. So 20 WPM (faster than I was ever able to
> copy) is about 17 baud. Seems terribly slow by today's standards, or even
> compared to 110-baud early dial-up.
>
> Even slower were the semaphore and wigwag methods of flag communication:
> http://www.scouting.org/filestore/pdf/historic_signaling_new.pdf
>
> For REALLY primitive rapid long-distance communication check out RFC 1149.
> The data transmission rate? Proper implementation might yield 9102 Mbit/s,
> according to this Wikipedia article:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_over_Avian_Carriers
>
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