[TriLUG] A sad comment on our culture

Matt Whitlow via TriLUG trilug at trilug.org
Mon Oct 12 12:12:54 EDT 2015


That brings to question are epithets wrong to use, I do not think they are
so to me it's not a big deal, that comes to a point where culture and
persons sensibility come into question, some people find the way others
speak offensive, do you restrict the person speaking or tell the other
person not to be offended, and where do you draw the line either way. That
is not a discussion that is easily pursued.
On Oct 12, 2015 12:07 PM, "William Sutton" <william at trilug.org> wrote:

> You can be honest and direct without being insulting.  Telling someone
> "the foobaz method is O(n)^2 inefficient and is better written thusly" is
> one thing.  Telling someone "you're an incompetent schmuck and should stick
> to knitting" is off base.  Telling Kay Sievers that his commit privileges
> have been revoked is probably reasonable.  Dropping F-bombs about it isn't.
>
> FWIW.
>
> William Sutton
>
> On Mon, 12 Oct 2015, Matt Whitlow via TriLUG wrote:
>
> I get that their are other ways it can work, for me I can't work in a
>> environment that isn't brutally honest, I don't improve and don't preform
>> to my best. But I can only speak for myself.
>> On Oct 12, 2015 12:00 PM, "Nikolas Everett" <nik9000 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 11:46 AM, Matt Whitlow via TriLUG <
>>> trilug at trilug.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> the
>>>> kernel development is known to be a harsh, brutal, and unforgiving
>>>> community but it lowers the chance of bad code getting into the
>>>> community
>>>> when you aren't afraid to question someone's code.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It *does* work but its not the only thing that works. I've worked in
>>> environments that don't put up with brutal comments but still maintain
>>> quality and that worked. You can totally question people's code and be
>>> nice
>>> about it.
>>>
>>> But, again, it works for the kernel. I'd never contribute to the kernel
>>> anyway because I'm not a good C developer but I'd doubly never contribute
>>> because I don't need the extra stress. They can alienate who they like so
>>> long as the project is still healthy. More people for the healthy
>>> communities then.
>>>
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