[TriLUG] Google Fiber Triangle Build out

Thu Aug 25 10:26:04 EDT 2016

Google is trying to treat stretch marks right now. They grew to fast with pie in the sky ideas and while I for one greatly appreciate their efforts. Reality is setting in and the change to the name Alphabet was just the way to restructure the company to control the spending on these crazy projects, which do in fact create great technology, but at what cost is the question. Specific to the Fiber project, you could say they accomplished the goal of better bandwidth as the REAL ISP's were scared to death of Google Fiber and responded quickly. I am not at all surprised at the outcome. We are jumping in on a big fiber project as well, and it is taking a longer than we planned too. These are big projects and there is nothing easy about it. There is a reason the BIG ISP/Telecoms have held on so tight. They already have the networks and it took decades to build them.
I am still rooting for Google Fiber, but there is no way I am signing up for last mile wireless. 

John Vaughters 

    On Thursday, August 25, 2016 10:05 AM, Michael Marley via TriLUG <trilug at trilug.org> wrote:

 To me, the article seems to indicate that new rollouts have been
suspended but the ones already in progress (like the Triangle) are
continuing. 

I sure hope so, anyway.  Ever since Google Fiber was announced here I
have been looking forward to having fiber Internet, and it would be a
shame to have it replaced with a WISP at the last minute. 

Wireless may be cheaper, but it has more than its fair share of
disadvantages like limited spectrum, limited range at the frequencies
required to achieve high data rates, low signal penetration at the
frequencies required to achieve high data rates, EMI/RFI, reliability
(because of the low range at the high frequency, many base stations will
be required, increasing the possibility of single-point failures),
backup power (if the backhaul is fiber, each individual base station
will need its own power and backup power sources), and backhaul in
general (with the low range and many required base stations, they would
still end up having to put in a bunch of fiber anyway). 

In short, if Google Fiber does switch to wireless in the Triangle, I
will probably just stick with TWC/Charter Spectrum. 

Michael 

On 2016-08-25 09:26, Hrivnak, Michael via TriLUG wrote:

> It looks like Google Fiber build-out is generally on hold as of last week,
> although I haven't seen any info specific to Raleigh
> 
> http://www.wsj.com/articles/googles-high-speed-web-plans-hit-snags-1471193165?mod=e2tw
> 
> They are looking to change the last-mile strategy from fiber to wireless.
> 
> Michael
> 
> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 4:51 PM, Chris via TriLUG <trilug at trilug.org> wrote:
> 
> Huh, I was supposed to get bumped from 15 to 50 Mbps last year for the
> same price. I called and said that wasn't enough, so they bumped it up to
> 200 Mbps with no price increase. They did raise it $10/mo this year. I also
> noticed that they seemed more like Verizon when I called about the price
> increase (they had a decidedly take it or leave it approach to their
> pricing). I wonder how much the new attitude has to do with the Charter
> merger. Hopefully they see the error of their ways when Google starts their
> service.
> 
> To Scott: sorry you are seeing this twice.  I apparently can't email today.
> 
> On August 24, 2016 4:00:08 PM EDT, Scott Thomas <chemikalguy at yahoo.com>
> wrote: That's what they told me, until I looked at my bill, that had suddenly
> gone up $30. I was paying for that speed bump. I told them to take that
> crap off my bill, as it was supposed to be a free upgrade - per the
> news release on TWC's own website.
> The funny thing is that last weekend while shopping, a couple of TWC
> sales guys stopped me and asked, "Excuse me, can I ask you a quick
> question? Who do you have for internet, phone and TV service?"
> 
> I replied, "You guys, until Google Fiber is live."
> 
> They bid me farewell immediately.
> Scott
> 
> From: Chris via TriLUG <trilug at trilug.org>
> To: Mauricio Tavares <raubvogel at gmail.com>; Triangle Linux Users Group
> General Discussion <trilug at trilug.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 3:55 PM
> Subject: Re: [TriLUG] Google Fiber Triangle Build out
> 
> I am also wondering if/how much they will drop their prices.  When AT&T
> showed up with fiber last year, they already increased speeds at each
> tier commensurate with their speeds/pricing on Kansas City where they
> compete with Google Fiber.
> 
> On August 24, 2016 3:40:12 PM EDT, Mauricio Tavares via TriLUG
> <trilug at trilug.org> wrote: On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 12:23 PM, Scott Lambdin via TriLUG
> <trilug at trilug.org> wrote: If I try the $300 construction and $0/mo option and find out I need more oomph, did I waste the $300?
> 
> There are ATT teams running cables around also. 
> Which reminds me: how soon after google fibre is out before TW
> drop their prices?
> 
> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 11:04 AM, mr-trilug via TriLUG <trilug at trilug.org> wrote:
> 
> Lots of orange cables, huts,  etc.
> But web is dark about timing (unless someone has found a neat URL).
> 
> Anyone have any chatter about when services will be delivered?
> Will they be opening one neighborhood at a time or all at one time?
> 
> I live in west Raleigh near Ridgewood Shopping Center/Wade Avenue.
> 
> Pricing seems to be $70/mo or $300 construction and $0/mo for seven
 years 

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