[TriLUG] Wireless AP recommendation

Sat Aug 26 23:39:46 EDT 2017

All makes good sense!

On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 9:46 PM, Aaron Joyner <aaron at joyner.ws> wrote:

> It's mostly about more convenient/correct connections to the closer AP.
> They also do some nice tricks like automatically scan the network
> environment and pick the best channel for each AP (good, but not as good as
> you can do by hand, usually).  If you've only got 2 APs and you don't get
> too far from either, it's not a big difference.
>
> One of the main drivers for me was that a lot of the other APs are... not
> particularly reliable.  I replaced a few Netgear WAPs in rapid succession
> and then decided it was worth more to be to run sightly higher quality gear.
>
> I also don't need the router functionality as I'm running a Linux box as
> the router (see, look, we mentioned Linux!).  :-)
>
> Aaron S. Joyner
>
>
> On Aug 26, 2017 7:31 PM, "Mike Viscount via TriLUG" <trilug at trilug.org>
> wrote:
>
> To ask a question ... I've been watching the thread for a while and I'm
> curious ...  I used to have 2 internet connections in my house but when TW
> said they were going to start charging me for both I got rid of one ... got
> rid of TW also :-)  Now I have 1 router upstairs serving up wireless
> (Netgear AC1750/R6400) and want stronger wireless downstairs since that's
> where my roku so also looking to put in an AP.  I have a cat 5 run
> downstairs so that part is solved.  The route I was going was another
> Netgear AC1750/R6400 configured as an AP.  Cost $109 ... (Best Buy -
> regular $129) and if my main router upstairs fails I've got a backup ready
> to go.  If it doens't work for some reason I can take it back.
>
> So, for my question ... is there any reason not to go with the router as an
> AP vs. dedicated AP like the ubiquity, rukus, or others?  Only reason I can
> think of would be if there were so many wireless clients that I needed the
> dedicated performance but I don't ... it's a household, not an enterprise,
> just a couple phones, tablets, a couple roku's, ... and in use at any one
> given time is a couple, maybe a handful if I had family over and everyone
> was using it on their phones?  Oh yeah, not super concerned about the
> handoff from one to the other because most of the time the devices are not
> on the move and it's not an ip phone ... just surfing, email, ... etc. so
> even if there's a blip it's not a big deal - SSID will be the same so
> reconnecting not needed.  It's all supported natively by Netgear in the
> firmware.
>
> Thoughts?  And to the original post as a solution .... perhaps any old wifi
> router laying around could suffice for you also.  Can still to the PoE if
> you don't have an ethernet cable available and if the router doesn't
> support AP config natively ... DD-WRT does so just need to make sure the
> router is compatible with that.
>
> Much thanks in advance!
>
> Mike
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 7:03 PM, Aaron Joyner via TriLUG <
> trilug at trilug.org>
> wrote:
>
> > This seems like a risk for any long cable run, why does PoE change that
> > risk?
> >
> > I've lost a few Ubiquiti PoE injectors on long runs due to (presumably)
> > induction from lightning strikes, but surprisingly I've never lost a WAP.
> > The injectors seem to be a bit more sensitive.
> >
> > On Aug 26, 2017 5:37 PM, "Joseph Mack NA3T via TriLUG" <
> trilug at trilug.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On Thu, 24 Aug 2017, Ron Kelley via TriLUG wrote:
> > >
> > > As for using a PoE switch, the following URL gives a good indication of
> > >> power loss vs cable length:
> > >>
> > >
> > > My main worry with PoE is the length of ethernet cable involved. If
> it's
> > > not in a Faraday cage (say it's under a shingled roof), during a
> > lightning
> > > storm, there will be large voltage spikes developed in the ethernet,
> > which
> > > will fry the WAP.
> > >
> > > I've only done one PoE installation but I put lightning protectors on
> > both
> > > ends of the ethernet cable. I don't know if this was needed.
> > >
> > > I've had a USB web camera sitting in a window blow during a lightning
> > > storm just from the 6' or so of USB cable to the WAP. The PS for the
> WAP
> > > blew at the same time, although the WAP didn't.
> > >
> > > Joe
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