[TriLUG] Intel bug in the news today

Robert Dale via TriLUG trilug at trilug.org
Fri Jan 5 12:22:16 EST 2018


This seems to be arguing against universal service and nothing to do with
net neutrality.

Robert Dale

On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 10:50 AM, John Vaughters via TriLUG <
trilug at trilug.org> wrote:

>
>
> Trolling??? Hahahaha!!!!
>
> If a discussion on broadband competition started by someone else and my
> comment does not agree with yours = Trolling????
>
> We all have, uh.... Belly Buttons, yeah Belly Buttons as well as opinions
> right???
>
> I can get 4-5 decent internet options and these days that includes TV and
> phone.
>
> Major options:
>
> 1. Spectrum
> 2. AT&T
> 3. Soon Google (2-4 years maybe?)
>
> Minor Options:
> 1. Verizon Wireless
> 2. Sprint Wireless
> 3. Satellite Internet
>
>
> Just about everyone on this list has at least 3 of these options and a few
> only 2. If you chose to live where you live, eeeeeeh...... about 99.9% of
> you did choose, then why is it anyone's fault but yours what service you
> have? Before Train, Cars, Planes, you pick the technology, not everyone in
> every location had equal access, NOR should they or do they deserve equal
> access to services or advantages of said technologies. HOW ON EARTH does
> anyone believe they should have equal access???
>
> Now for most people let me layout a few cases.
>
> Case #1:
>
> A young college student getting an Accounting degree wants internet and
> video services so he can get all those hot dates that accountants are
> renowned for to his house for some good lovin fun. So being a bean counter,
> he comes to the solution the the best case scenario is Verizon Wireless
> Unlimited plan so he can have internet, TV and phone and pay the least for
> the total services. So he can save his beans to pay for all those hot dates.
>
> Case #2:
>
> IT College Student decides he wants to have a decent website with a good
> internet connection to allow for many connections to his web server to make
> some Ad revenue. Since Computer Science folks are smarter than the average
> bear, he comes to the same solution as his accountant neighbor. A wireless
> connection only, but to also buy a virtual server with duplicated fast
> internet connections.
>
> Case #3:
>
> Rural Area Farmer, Decides he needs access to internet to manage his
> hedging strategy on his cattle. No Wireless, No cable, only telephone and
> Satellite. He opts for Satellite knowing he does not need large monthly
> bandwidth and the overall service is cheaper.
>
> Case #4:
>
> Professionals that live in Raleigh/Durham and neighboring towns who have
> access to multiple vendors with 100-1000Mb services from 3 High Speed
> vendors (or will very soon) or 3 Wireless vendors and they decide on which
> company they feel provides the best service for the money aka best value.
>
> Case #5:
>
> You live on the out skirts of a large town and you did not do your
> homework to find out where the planned high speed connections are going to
> be laid and you you only have 1 High Speed vendor and 1 Wireless vendor.
> Then you cry because its just not fair that you do not have the same
> options and end up paying the 1 vendor because the Gov. that you may or may
> not have voted for regulated policy in your area that only this one vendor
> had exclusive access and the solution is Federal Regulation to further gum
> up the works because the exclusive policies have already gummed it up and
> you are not happy that your municipality has screwed you over so everyone
> else must get screwed over as well.
>
> Cry me a river!!!
>
> Ok, you got me case #5  was trolling.
>
> Sorry, Competition for Bandwidth is screaming right now, and if you do not
> realize it, you just are not paying attention.
>
> STOP expecting all locations have equal service. It will never happen. Not
> every location has access to mass transportation or airports or water or oh
> geez, pick a topic.
>
>
> On Thursday, January 4, 2018, 4:16:57 PM EST, Thomas Delrue <
> delrue.thomas at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> On January 4, 2018 3:48:13 PM EST, John Vaughters via TriLUG <
> trilug at trilug.org> wrote:
> >   +1 Nothing Burger Why? Because enough competition already exists and
> is getting more competitive by the year. Let the markets work and they will
> return the best most competitive product. If the issue ever gets to a
> monopoly situation, we already have laws for that problem.As an example,I
> do not care if they throttle, because I do not have to buy their service,
> and they will not retain customers if they create bad business.Markets
> work, keep them free from Gov. intrusion.
>
> You're trolling, right?
> --
> Thomas
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