18:01:43 <whippythellama> #startmeeting
18:01:43 <Tribot> Meeting started Tue Mar  3 18:01:43 2015 UTC.  The chair is whippythellama. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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18:01:55 <whippythellama> #topic March 12 Meeting Logistics / Responsibilities
18:02:12 <mhrivnak> I'll do pizza as usual.
18:02:23 <whippythellama> awesome, thank you mhrivnak
18:02:33 <billf> I will be absent at the next meeting
18:02:40 <mhrivnak> I have not gotten any feedback about sponsorship.
18:02:53 <whippythellama> per email, isharacomix is arranging the room - hopefully by tomorrow
18:03:09 <whippythellama> billf: i emailed you about the a/v setup
18:03:12 <billf> whippythellama: I suggest you video record the meeting using guvcview
18:03:31 <billf> it's simple and has less chance of failing
18:03:35 <whippythellama> cool - good tip
18:04:04 <billf> please test this before the meeting and check that the audio is recorded from your webcam and not your laptop microphone
18:04:06 <whippythellama> #action whippythellama set up guvcview on his laptop and play with it
18:04:21 <whippythellama> i will, thank you
18:04:24 <billf> cool
18:04:35 <whippythellama> all that being the case, i'd say i'll be the a/v person this time
18:05:13 <whippythellama> who's to be emcee, and who's taking new member ambassador?
18:05:20 <whippythellama> jackhill - got a preference?
18:05:22 <jackhill> I volunteer to emcee
18:05:27 <whippythellama> there ya go
18:05:54 <whippythellama> we'll say isharacomix will be new member ambassador for now and get confirmation from him
18:06:10 <jackhill> sounds good
18:06:19 <whippythellama> #action whippythellama confirm isharacomix's role for march meeting
18:06:25 <jackhill> whippythellama: do you have the drinks?
18:06:29 <whippythellama> i can probably still get drinks
18:06:52 <whippythellama> i want to get there a touch early to make sure the a/v setup is good to go before we begin
18:07:08 <whippythellama> mhrivnak: can i hand off drink duties to you when i arrive?
18:07:11 <billf> whippythellama: I have invited you to be a manager for the trilug youtube channel
18:07:18 <mhrivnak> whippythellama, definitely.
18:07:18 <whippythellama> thank you, billf
18:07:31 <whippythellama> awesome - thanks, mhrivnak
18:07:40 <billf> this will let you upload the video when you get home
18:07:45 <whippythellama> perfect
18:07:59 <whippythellama> i think that's most of it
18:08:01 <whippythellama> one other thing
18:08:11 <whippythellama> votes on the meeting format
18:08:32 <whippythellama> announcements, then pizza, then presentation vs pizza then announcements then presentation
18:08:59 <whippythellama> and we can defer that until next week if you all would rather
18:09:03 <whippythellama> it's not urgent to decide
18:09:29 <billf> it will impact the announcement times
18:09:42 <whippythellama> good point, billf
18:09:46 <jackhill> I think I liked the annoucements first.
18:10:11 <mhrivnak> I like announcements first, although I think more people will hear the announcements if they happen after pizza.
18:10:31 <whippythellama> i'm in the same boat there
18:10:34 <mhrivnak> There's also a question of where a sponsor slot would go. I think that would have to happen after pizza regardless.
18:10:46 <whippythellama> very true
18:10:59 <whippythellama> we haven't run with the announcements-first format with a sponsor yet
18:11:15 <jackhill> Let's try announcements first again. If we have more usual attendance this time, we'll be able to get a better feel for it.
18:11:25 <whippythellama> agreed, jackhill
18:11:56 <whippythellama> ok, i think that's it for now on this
18:12:01 <whippythellama> #topic April Topic?
18:12:20 <whippythellama> does anyone have any leads on a topic for next month?
18:12:39 * mhrivnak does not
18:12:44 <jackhill> I have a lead for Debian packaging tutorial
18:13:23 <whippythellama> that would be great
18:13:44 <whippythellama> how likely do you think it would be?
18:13:49 <whippythellama> for next month, that is
18:14:10 <jackhill> okay, I'll correspond with the potential speaker. I didn't have a date to give him before, but now I do.
18:14:13 <jackhill> um, 75%
18:14:21 <whippythellama> i'm going to ask the speakers at next week's triangle devops if they would be willing to come to trilug
18:14:38 <whippythellama> great, jackhill - keep us posted
18:14:45 <jackhill> will do
18:14:59 <whippythellama> #topic Other Future Topics
18:15:02 <jackhill> #action jackhill correspond with Debian packaging speaker
18:15:11 <whippythellama> ah - good catch
18:15:17 <jackhill> tech talk panel
18:15:31 <whippythellama> #action whippythellama ask triangle devops speakers if they want to come to trilug
18:15:47 <jackhill> I think I'll just pick one of the summer months and start recruiting people
18:15:47 <whippythellama> sounds good, jackhill - can you fill in some details on how that would work?
18:16:04 <billf> please update the UpcomingMeetings SC wiki page with details
18:16:49 <jackhill> I was thinking a moderated panel, so we recruite four or five people and one of us moderates and askeds them questions, and takes questions from the audience.
18:16:54 <billf> there are some speaker leads on that page too
18:17:09 <whippythellama> billf: ok, will do
18:17:23 <jackhill> billf: will do
18:17:33 <jackhill> Is it time for another v6 talk now that everyone has it at home?
18:17:46 <billf> I think we need to space out the "unstructured" meetings more
18:18:10 <billf> IPv6 would be good.
18:18:29 <whippythellama> do we have a lead on someone who can give a talk on v6?
18:18:34 <jackhill> Do we want to ask Kevin again?
18:18:35 <mhrivnak> ipv6 with a tilt toward how to make use of it would be good.
18:18:39 <billf> find someone to do a major distro comparison
18:18:44 <whippythellama> mhrivnak: agreed
18:19:33 <whippythellama> i'd like to put up a form on the main site with "topics we want to hear"
18:19:33 <billf> I would like to see a btrfs talk
18:19:52 <whippythellama> see if we can get people to sign up to give some of these
18:20:31 <mhrivnak> good idea.
18:20:37 <mhrivnak> both of them. :)
18:20:41 <billf> if you ask for topics, also ask for possible speakers along with the topic
18:20:47 <whippythellama> i'll start it just as a simple wish list with instructions to email steering if interested
18:20:53 <whippythellama> we can get fancy on it later
18:20:59 <jackhill> +1
18:21:09 <whippythellama> #action whippythellama put up a page on trilug.org with a list of topics we'd like to see
18:21:38 <whippythellama> billf: my thought was a list of topics we'd like to see (btrfs, for instance)
18:21:59 <whippythellama> and ask folks to email us if they're interested in doing such a talk, or if they know someone who would be
18:22:08 <whippythellama> just casting our nets right now in other words
18:22:17 <whippythellama> ok, we're running tight
18:22:25 <whippythellama> #topic DMARC Mailing List Fallout
18:22:38 <whippythellama> jackhill - the floor is yours, i believe
18:22:59 <jackhill> We've had mixed responses to the change. Do we want to try a different strategy
18:23:33 <jackhill> The two that I know of: don't touch the message at all (no subject line change, no footer. I think we'd still get List-Info headers)
18:23:41 <jackhill> Wrap the original message as a MIME part.
18:23:49 <mhrivnak> I could use a bit more info about the "dumping yahoo" option.
18:24:13 <jackhill> The MIME part is the most full-featured, but I worry about people without capable mail clients
18:24:22 <mhrivnak> is it just yahoo that's incompatible with our original setup?
18:24:54 <billf> I thought it was yahoo, aol, hotmail, etc
18:24:54 <whippythellama> jackhill: could you maybe write up a brief outline of our options and their pros and cons?
18:24:55 <jackhill> mhrivnak: Yahoo bounces messages that are DMARC/DKIM signed, but whose signature doesn't verify.
18:24:58 <mhrivnak> jackhill, I see your email says "Yahoo and other large mail exchanges"
18:25:18 <whippythellama> …in email, that is, not here
18:25:33 <jackhill> whippythellama: sure
18:25:48 <whippythellama> thank you
18:25:50 <jackhill> #action jackhill writeup DMARC options
18:26:25 <whippythellama> we're just tight on time - we can circle back to it if we have a couple mins
18:26:29 <whippythellama> #topic Server Donation To/From NCSULUG
18:26:36 <billf> I vote yes
18:26:45 <whippythellama> i have those 1u boxes at my house - i can bring one in whenever
18:26:51 <whippythellama> i agree, billf
18:26:54 <jackhill> I vote yes
18:26:59 <jackhill> mhrivnak: can we legally do it?
18:27:03 <whippythellama> mhrivnak: tax implications?
18:27:04 <whippythellama> heh
18:27:05 <whippythellama> that
18:27:07 <whippythellama> :)
18:27:30 <billf> the server in question is the one I donated, so it is not on any books
18:27:45 <mhrivnak> good question... is the student LUG officially affiliated with the university?
18:27:50 <whippythellama> oh cool, billf
18:28:09 <whippythellama> given that, mhrivnak - does that make it simpler?
18:28:18 <mhrivnak> that does.
18:28:27 <whippythellama> ok, cool
18:28:35 <mhrivnak> honestly, giving it to them supports linux education, so I think we're fine.
18:28:41 <whippythellama> billf: i'll need you to tell me which chassis is the one in question
18:28:43 <mhrivnak> it supports our mission.
18:28:48 <whippythellama> agreed, mhrivnak
18:29:32 <billf> #topic General Business
18:29:38 <whippythellama> #action whippythellama find out from billf which server is the one we're giving to NCSULUG
18:29:59 <whippythellama> #action whippythellama arrange to give the server to leafstorm
18:30:10 <whippythellama> #topic General Business
18:30:13 <billf> I don't have chair :-(
18:30:16 <whippythellama> sorry, didn't chair you guys
18:30:21 <billf> Someone please check the PO Box before the next meeting
18:30:22 <whippythellama> oops
18:30:28 <whippythellama> ok
18:30:33 <billf> Drupal now displays the "admin block" on the left if you login and have the correct permissions.
18:30:38 <billf> I have created a new "content type" on the website for meetings.
18:30:39 <whippythellama> i have the key, where's the physical box, billf?
18:31:02 <billf> whippythellama: on the SC wiki
18:31:14 <whippythellama> drupal also 'pops up' the admin interface rather than keeping it in the page now
18:31:22 <whippythellama> billf: gotcha
18:31:51 <whippythellama> #action whippythellama to either check the PO box or delegate/hand off the key
18:32:01 <jackhill> mhrivnak: can you send out the notes from the 22nd (or did you already do that and I missed it)?
18:32:19 <mhrivnak> jackhill, I have not,  but I will.
18:32:26 <jackhill> mhrivnak: thanks
18:32:31 <whippythellama> fwiw, we're two minutes over
18:32:57 <whippythellama> i don't have a hard stop today, but i don't want to keep you all
18:33:05 <billf> whippythellama: I think it is the usps on Lake Dam Rd ear Tryon Rd
18:33:17 <whippythellama> ok, cool - thank you, billf
18:33:24 <mhrivnak> looks like there's a typo in this URL: http://trilug.org/~tribot/meetbot/trilug-buisness/2015/
18:33:31 <mhrivnak> see: "buisness"
18:33:48 <jackhill> mhrivnak: that has since been corrected (I forgot to remove the old logs)
18:33:49 <whippythellama> it should be fine for today's meeting
18:33:55 <mhrivnak> oh good.
18:33:59 <mhrivnak> thanks!
18:34:04 <whippythellama> tribot uses the name of the channel, and the channel is spelled correctly
18:34:50 <jackhill> removed
18:35:00 <whippythellama> ok, any other items of business before we break?
18:35:06 <jackhill> I have nothing
18:35:20 <mhrivnak> nope
18:35:24 <billf> done
18:35:37 <whippythellama> coolio
18:35:40 <whippythellama> #endmeeting