17:08:30 #startmeeting 17:08:30 Meeting started Tue Jun 21 17:08:30 2016 UTC. The chair is whippythellama. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 17:08:30 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 17:08:40 #chair qqx stmiller mhrivnak whippythellama jeremyhwllc 17:08:40 Current chairs: jeremyhwllc mhrivnak qqx stmiller whippythellama 17:09:04 #topic Agenda Additions 17:09:16 Nothing here 17:09:16 anyone have something to add? 17:09:41 not at this time 17:09:42 nope 17:09:53 negatron 17:09:55 heh 17:09:57 coolio 17:09:59 moving on 17:10:05 #topic Site and Systems 17:10:22 qqx: since we might lose you on short notice today - VERP? 17:10:38 does it appear to be working so far? 17:10:42 Seems to be working 17:10:59 Still don't know why my first change didn't seem to affect the main list. 17:11:16 hmm 17:11:17 Real test will come when we send something to -announce 17:11:40 cool. we'll stay tuned :) 17:11:52 so on that site password prompt issue 17:12:23 was someone taking a crack at that? 17:12:25 i can't recall 17:12:41 Ah me. What if we did that wiki plugin + require ldap auth for members only? 17:13:02 ahh I forgot about the prompt issue 17:13:39 a web page with simple instructions would alleviate the pain 17:13:50 our purpose there was to put up a minor roadblock for bots, rather than locking down the site 17:14:00 jeremyhwllc: yeah 17:14:26 right. the solution works almost flawlessly except there is occasional confusion 17:14:27 That seems reasonable. 17:14:27 A web page with instructions only helps if you can get people to look at it. 17:14:42 qqx: we're talking about a landing page for the current links 17:14:43 Doesn't really work for having multiple links from the non-blocked portion of the site. 17:14:45 It would be nice to keep it publicly available, but normal trilug auth would be better than what we have now. 17:14:46 a pass-through 17:15:17 mhrivnak: true 17:15:47 If we go with the LDAP auth we'd probably want to restrict it to https 17:15:59 How many links are causing the pop up. I thought it was only one 17:16:00 most definitely 17:16:23 so far i've only found one, but i haven't gone looking too deeply yet 17:16:27 Is the problem that spammers were creating accounts and posting stuff? 17:17:00 I guess we probably shouldn't go too far into the weeds on how to fix this at the moment, but a few minutes seems ok. :) 17:17:02 i don't know the original reason 17:17:05 it predates me 17:17:11 From looking at the URLs in the sidebar it appears to be 3 links. 17:17:20 Meetings, and the 2 FAQ ones. 17:17:30 so one link that goes to a page with instructions and maybe a screenshot image with arrows etc would fix 17:17:38 Another option is to make the wiki read only except from localhost. We're all handy with an SSH tunnel if necessary. 17:17:47 oh 3 17:17:52 I don't know if that's actually helpful, but thought I'd mention it. 17:18:45 even 3 links could gi to the instructional spash page 17:19:03 ok, clicking through i think the issue may be with the 'create account' page 17:19:04 Would work, but that would deter users as well 17:19:07 Actually, it looks there are a couple more links to the wiki in the paragraphs at the top of the main page. 17:20:31 we need to figure out what our basic goal is with this 17:21:09 i'm not sure if the current prompt is still 'protecting' what it was originally intended to or not 17:21:34 We should probably continue this at another time? For history, I think there's an email from Alan explaining it, but I don't remember what he said. :) 17:21:35 so we should look at what we want to protect and then figure out what should be put in place for that 17:21:41 mhrivnak: agreed 17:21:50 lets action that to me and I will take a look. then discuss next week. 17:21:57 thank you, jeremyhwllc 17:22:12 We can also discuss options via email. 17:22:17 +1 17:22:41 #action jeremyhwllc investigate the site auth issue 17:22:58 given the time, i'm going to skip the job posting sub-topic 17:23:02 #topic July Meeting 17:23:29 i only see one presenter so far 17:23:36 I'll sign up for one. 17:23:40 mhrivnak: awesome! 17:23:58 i would, but i haven't taken the pi plunge yet :) 17:23:59 I can probably think of something as well. 17:24:22 stmiller: wasn't your minecraft server on a pi? 17:24:30 stmiller, what about your WUNC player? Or was it WCPE? 17:24:38 that too! 17:25:19 jeremyhwllc: could you put out another call for speakers to the list, and cross-post to appropriate other groups? 17:25:19 Maybe something with minecraft would be the most entertaining? 17:25:27 the other option is to ask the one who signed up to do a full presentation 17:25:41 jeremyhwllc: also possible 17:25:51 will cross promote as well 17:26:39 the one who signed up has an awesome bio 17:27:13 i look forward to hearing him :) 17:27:27 ok, can you take the announcement action? 17:27:29 PHD 2 degrees from MIT and NCSU professor 17:27:53 we're almost at time 17:28:01 real time topic applied to robotics etc.. 17:28:04 #topic Meeting Locations 17:28:37 last week was nuts, and i didn't reach out like i wanted, so... 17:28:54 #action whippythellama email ncsu about moving the meetings back there 17:29:02 Robert is available to discuss RTP Frontier long term now that he returned from vacation 17:29:09 #action whippythellama email group for lexis nexus contacts 17:29:15 NCSU is ideal 17:29:32 yeah, alan also expressed the desire to stay on centennial if possible 17:29:51 Cool. Should we also appeal to the list to ask for Lexis Nexis contacts? 17:29:54 RTP is very central to the Triangle and could get larger peeps at meetings 17:29:56 the Durham crowd likes the RTP Frontier location 17:29:58 oh, and i found a bada-like place close to frontier for july :) 17:30:32 whippythellama, the lengths you to for the sake of trilug... commendable. ;) 17:30:36 lol 17:30:43 er, missing a "go" in there, but you got it I'm sure. 17:30:51 got it :) 17:30:57 * whippythellama is clever that way 17:31:11 stmiller: agreed on rtp 17:31:17 i'm eager to see how july goes 17:31:28 Which of us has been to Frontier already? Is there value in one or two of us scouting it out before the meeting? 17:31:32 I've not been. 17:31:38 mhrivnak: nor have i 17:31:40 jeremyhwllc? 17:31:48 but i do think there would be value 17:31:58 Kevis Otte sent me an email expressing his enthusiasm about the RTP Frontier location 17:32:03 especially to check things like a/v and network 17:32:56 ok, we are officially over time 17:33:04 jeremyhwllc, are you our main contact with them? If you can find out when are good times generally to visit and check it out, we can see who can go out there? 17:33:05 I can ask about those things next time I talk to robert 17:33:14 I'm happy to go out there if it's a time that I can make work. 17:33:14 #topic General Business 17:33:37 any last minute items? 17:33:41 none here 17:33:41 mhrivnak: likewise 17:33:42 sure thing 17:33:43 No 17:33:49 none 17:34:00 ok, thank you everyone - sorry for the late start 17:34:03 #endmeeting