18:32:24 #startmeeting 18:32:24 Meeting started Mon Nov 21 18:32:24 2016 UTC. The chair is whippythellama. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 18:32:24 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 18:32:32 #chair mhrivnak stmiller qqx whippythellama 18:32:32 Current chairs: mhrivnak qqx stmiller whippythellama 18:32:42 #topic Check for Agenda Additions 18:32:49 anyone have anything they need to add? 18:32:55 nope 18:32:57 nope 18:33:10 nope 18:33:16 the nopes have it :) 18:33:21 #topic Moya Recap 18:33:34 woot! 18:33:36 tribot is coming to us live from our shiny new server - woo hoo! 18:33:53 Still a couple of outstanding issues. 18:34:14 i played dumb at windstream when they talked about removing equipment - since it was a swap, there wasn't really any trouble about it 18:34:18 Main one being a problem with outbound IPv6. 18:34:31 i need to upload the couple of pics i took :) 18:34:43 qqx: this related to the backup email you replied to earlier? 18:34:51 Pilot keeps adding an address on the HE tunnel block and using that as the default, even though it's not reachable. 18:34:53 and may i just say 18:34:59 @qqx++ 18:35:07 dude, you are THE MAN 18:35:09 whippythellama: Yes, it's the root cause of the backup failures. 18:35:37 any hiccups since the swap have been pretty minor from the user perspective, if any at all 18:35:41 you rocked that! 18:35:41 I *think* taking eth0 down and bringing it back up may fix things. 18:35:47 hehe 18:35:55 ok, let me know when i should head to the colo ;) 18:36:01 heh 18:36:17 Shouldn't need any colo access. Can get console access from moya. 18:36:26 ok, cool 18:36:33 i need to check my access at that level 18:36:46 i wasn't able to log in from a physical console on saturday 18:36:57 The ipv6 appears to be using dhcp for he.net, but could just set a static for v6 18:37:23 I've been temporarily fixing the problem with `ip a delete 2001:470:7:11ec::2 dev eth0` 18:37:58 the front panel errors still concern me 18:38:07 Yeah, could use static IP info, although I was trying to keep the network config mostly consolidated. 18:38:19 qqx: have you seen any disk errors in moya's logs? 18:38:53 The other outstanding issue is that for now haproxy isn't working in transparent mode, so all IPv4 access will show as coming from moya's internal address. 18:39:49 yeah, that's a bummer 18:39:57 i can't ssh into moya, btw 18:40:00 I haven't seen disk errors, but I hadn't really looked for them. 18:40:06 yeah, i figured 18:40:11 more pressing issues 18:40:22 it's something i'd like to check 18:40:27 agreed. 18:40:30 and i'd be happy to, but i can't seem to ssh into moya :) 18:40:41 We'll sleep easier knowing the disks are ok. :) 18:40:55 whippythellama: What user are you trying to login as? 18:40:55 especially since they're brand-friggin-new! 18:40:58 he.net tunnel requires a static for v6 (at least for the host receiving your endpoint) 18:41:02 qqx: bgerard 18:41:14 my login on pilot 18:41:46 The only accounts on moya currently are root and aschrab. 18:42:11 well that would explain that :) 18:42:19 could you enable the rest of the sc? 18:43:11 I can, although I'll need to figure out what to do about initial passwords. 18:43:27 That will need to wait until after work. 18:43:39 oh sure, i didn't mean "while we wait" :) 18:43:41 @action qqx Add accounts on moya for SC members. 18:43:46 thank you, sir :) 18:44:29 we can figure out the temporary/initial password thing 18:44:41 ok, anything else on moya for the moment? 18:45:02 Nothing urgent. 18:45:17 anything you'd like help with? 18:45:19 Although now that that's done it would be nice to check into native IPv6. 18:45:26 that it would 18:45:53 I can help with ipv6 if you want 18:45:59 Also it appears that we need to get non-StartSSL certs for www and steering, Firefox doesn't like those. 18:46:00 he.net v6, that is 18:46:11 we will, yes, qqx 18:46:24 stmiller: Trying to get non-HE v6. 18:46:40 the current ones *should* be fine until they expire, but we can't get any new ones from startssl because of that 18:47:03 we had discussed using letsencrypt, i believe 18:47:13 No, even now Firefox is saying that the certs aren't trusted. 18:47:21 lovely :/ 18:47:30 that wasn't supposed to be the case 18:47:40 I did a bit of an attempt at getting letsencrypt working yesterday. 18:48:15 i think coxn (and stmiller?) had offered to help setting letsencrypt up, iirc 18:48:28 Got it running, but it's failing to authenticate. I think because of how apache is configured to redirect almost everything. 18:48:35 hrm... 18:49:17 ok, we can discuss this further on the list or next week; i'd like to move on so we can get to the holiday party 18:49:22 +1 18:49:26 #topic November Hack Night Recap 18:49:29 I can help get letsencrypt working yeah. (onward) 18:49:36 apache also isn't allowing access to the email autoconfig URL used by (at least) Thunderbird. Which is under the same top level directory as used by letsencrypt. 18:49:37 thank you, stmiller :) 18:49:57 stmiller's presentation was well received, i thought 18:50:04 i certainly liked it :) 18:50:16 and thank you for your show-n-tell, stmiller 18:50:26 Much better turn out than the last couple of hack nights. :) 18:50:27 Ha thanks I wasn't sure if anyone would be there. Had a few 18:50:45 qqx: that's sure the case! 18:51:18 i think the lesson to take away there is that having a topic or theme helps 18:51:44 agreed. 18:51:44 the last few before that were generic "come do whatever" kinds of hack nights 18:52:19 i think most folks were probably thinking why do that when i can do the same thing at home with my 27" monitor? 18:52:25 :) 18:52:34 any other thoughts on hack night? 18:52:46 Just takes effort and time of someone(s) to run hack nights. I'm currently at a max though with kid activities or other things. 18:52:58 stmiller: agreed 18:53:12 For now we need a steering person or other person to take each on, or just skip them. 18:53:13 but qqx was running it just fine for a couple of months there 18:53:44 agreed again 18:53:52 ok, let's move on to the holiday party 18:53:57 #topic Holiday Party 18:54:10 mhrivnak: thank you VERY much for securing the annex for us! 18:54:15 Sure thing. 18:54:26 what times do we have? 18:54:38 It's on the calendar 6:30-9:30. 18:54:45 i will call neomonde and see about the food 18:54:51 And I said we'd advertise 7-9 18:54:56 mhrivnak: ok, cool 18:54:59 heh... good call :) 18:55:26 we need to make initial announcements and get the rsvp form up online 18:55:41 and update the site and meetup 18:55:41 We can potentially use meetup as the RSVP collector. 18:56:04 i'm open to that, providing it gives us the details we need 18:56:07 It also has the option to let us ask attendees specific questions. I'm not sure if that'll meet our needs, but we should look at it. 18:56:16 mhrivnak: thank you! 18:56:25 Having 2 places to RSVP could be confusing. 18:56:30 Probably best to try to use meetup. 18:56:41 mhrivnak: That was my thinking as well. 18:56:43 What questions do we need to ask? 18:56:51 how many coming with you 18:56:54 I suppose we can dig out last year's form. 19:01:01 ...well there goes our scribe 19:01:14 I don't think it will ask for that information after someone has RSVPd. 19:01:23 qqx: good point 19:01:37 stmiller: excellent - that should help 19:01:49 ok, i'll take this to email 19:02:02 we're over, and i'm not sure if tribot still knows he's taking notes 19:02:08 Can polls be tied to an event? 19:02:19 Not sure 19:02:19 #action whippythellama email sc regarding holiday party tasks 19:02:49 mhrivnak is checking into meetup's rsvp/form capabilities 19:03:17 Did somebody else remove the extra IPv6 address from pilot? 19:03:23 not i 19:03:36 That was me, looks like I made tribot mad 19:03:41 aah 19:03:44 heh, oops 19:03:44 heh 19:04:12 That's a shame, I'd been hoping that the problem had resolved itself. 19:04:14 ok, we're almost 5 mins over; i don't want to keep everyone 19:04:34 thanks everybody! 19:04:36 #endmeeting