17:37:34 #startmeeting 17:37:34 Meeting started Mon Apr 10 17:37:34 2017 UTC. The chair is whippythellama. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 17:37:34 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 17:37:43 #chair mhrivnak qqx stmiller whippythellama 17:37:43 Current chairs: mhrivnak qqx stmiller whippythellama 17:37:54 #topic Check for Agenda Additions 17:37:59 anyone have anything to add? 17:38:07 I have one quick thing to cover. 17:38:16 No 17:38:19 about reimbursement for you and stmiller. 17:38:23 summary: they're on the way 17:38:25 :) 17:38:31 ah, ok, cool! :) 17:38:33 Can be under general business. 17:38:39 sure, sounds good 17:38:45 #topic April Meeting 17:39:00 everyone going on thursday? 17:39:16 I am. 17:39:19 I plan to, may not be able to get there as early as usual though. 17:39:32 i'm planning on going, but with a caveat 17:39:55 we have a couple of release events at work, and i'm not 100% sure if i have to work thursday night or not 17:40:17 so i'm hoping, and i'll try to arrange it so that i'm there, obviously 17:40:20 I can be there plenty early. 17:40:44 for now, i'll still plan on doing the drinks, etc 17:41:08 if i can't make it, i may need to arrange to hand off the bag, cooler, and box with one of you 17:41:29 Ack. I could facilitate that if needed. 17:41:32 i think making a trip downtown to redhat may be my best bet there 17:41:40 When wil you know? 17:41:52 today or tomorrow 17:42:03 Great, easy enough. 17:42:08 We can meet up if needed. 17:42:11 yep, shouldn't be last minute 17:42:13 ok, cool 17:42:18 I live a litte north of downtown. 17:42:29 Wow, my typing is terrible today. 17:42:35 i live a lot north of downtown ;) 17:42:59 so are you doing pizza, mhrivnak? 17:43:03 yep 17:43:06 ok, cool 17:43:14 we need to figure out MC as well 17:43:46 We could nominate Jeremy, who's always good at that sort of thing. :) 17:43:48 i'm happy to do it, but at the least someone would need to be my backup 17:44:02 true - i'll ping him 17:44:31 i also asked him to send out the announcements today and thursday 17:44:43 Great. 17:45:05 i'll also check with eric to make sure he's recording for us - i'm 99% positive he is 17:45:21 #action whippythellama ping jeremyhwllc about MC duties 17:45:31 #action whippythellama ping Eric about recording 17:45:45 anything else for thursday? 17:46:11 Nothing I can think of. 17:46:39 ok, movin along... 17:46:44 #topic Future Topics 17:47:00 so it looks like we have the home brew lab talk for may 17:47:17 Nice! 17:47:22 and Scott Hall got back to me about doing a HAM talk 17:47:31 which we can slate for june or august 17:47:44 as far as i know july is a follow-up to this month's talk 17:47:56 mhrivnak: we had discussed your kubernetes talk for june 17:48:13 Yep, that would be fine with me. 17:48:26 I'm also happy to yield June if someone else would prefer it. 17:48:36 ok, i'll check with Scott and find out his preference 17:48:47 #action whippythellama ping Scott Hall re: best month for the HAM talk 17:49:22 i believe jeremyhwllc was working with him on manning a table at whichever HAMfest is coming up this weekend 17:49:37 #action whippythellama ping jeremyhwllc about HAMfest 17:50:06 so it looks like we've got topics until about the end of summer at this point - which is great :) 17:50:43 but again, if you guys run across a good speaker feel free to send me his/her info and i'll follow up 17:50:54 Yep, indeed. I'm still trying to look for a Cockpit talk. 17:50:59 any other future topics, etc? 17:51:14 hmm... not familiar with that 17:51:16 I got to spend some time last week with one of the lead guys on that project. 17:51:23 oh yeah? 17:51:28 http://cockpit-project.org/ 17:51:31 GREAT stuff. 17:51:40 awesome - i'll check it out! 17:51:59 Problem is I haven't found anyone local yet who can talk about it. 17:52:08 yeah, that is a challenge 17:52:39 thanks for looking :) 17:52:48 ok, is that about it? 17:52:54 nothing else here. 17:53:06 cool... moving on 17:53:17 #topic Elections / Nominations 17:53:32 we all (and i include myself in this) need to self-nominate if we're running 17:53:39 Ah, good point. 17:53:57 if for no other reason than to break the ice 17:54:51 i'm hoping stmiller has someone in mind who he's planning on talking to at the meeting 17:55:10 if not, we should chat up some of the regulars this month 17:55:20 +1 17:55:42 ok, i think that's about it on the election 17:55:50 #topic Sponsorships 17:55:52 still dry there :( 17:56:01 Maybe time to appeal to the list? 17:56:11 i had a contact express some interest at tek systems, but i need to ping her again 17:56:16 yeah, probably so 17:56:27 #action whippythellama ping tek systems again 17:56:37 would you mind sending the note to the list? 17:56:44 #action mhrivnak send email to member list seeking sponsors 17:56:51 very much obliged :) 17:57:12 ok, and as always, if there are any leads along those lines, i'm happy to follow up 17:57:17 just send em my way 17:57:25 Sounds good. 17:57:30 ok, in the interest of time 17:57:37 #topic Tech Items 17:57:45 qqx: any news on the pilot upgrade effort? 17:57:59 No, unfortunately ENOTIME 17:58:09 fyi, stmiller has indicated that he will continue to work on the drupal replacement even after he's off the sc 17:58:16 qqx: fully understood 17:58:26 i've been handling that same interrupt of late ;) 17:58:29 Which is great. 17:58:38 yes, it really is 17:58:38 Remind me: do we have a plan for the spam issue we've been seeing? 17:58:50 honestly, i hadn't noticed any 17:58:59 i think gmail eats it for me 17:59:07 Yeah, I hadn't really noticed it either. 17:59:18 do you use gmail, qqx? 17:59:22 or your own server? 17:59:22 gmail fails to eat a substantial amount of it for me. 17:59:23 But my trilug address isn't really known anywhere. 17:59:30 I use my own server. 17:59:43 i think the spam issue we're talking about is to steering@ 17:59:48 Yes. 18:00:00 but gmail noms on those as well 18:00:24 I had modified the steering list to moderate messages that spamassassin flags as likely spam. 18:00:28 qqx: do you know if we turned off greylisting or anything, as alpo was asking? 18:00:56 Only 1 minor change to the mail config since before the VM move. 18:01:38 That was the recent one where I unified the handling for pilot's different IP addresses, and moved mailman to using a different port for its submissions. 18:01:49 hmmm... i wonder if there's just a new spam campaign underway 18:01:59 That shouldn't have affected spam amounts. 18:02:01 right 18:02:31 The OS upgrade should get us to newer versions of the filtering sw, and hopefully help with that. 18:02:37 FWIW, it does seem that something is different recently. 18:03:15 ok, let me see if i can get any spam stats from the anti-spam community - if there's some new botnet spamming, or a new spam tool out there, we could just be seeing the result of an increase of raw numbers of messages 18:03:41 ie - the percentage of blockage may be the same, but the number being filtered may have increased 18:04:15 ok, we're over time, so... 18:04:21 #topic General Business 18:04:30 mhrivnak: you were talking about reimbursements? 18:04:32 It could also be different strategies being used, which the old versions on pilot aren't catching. 18:04:39 qqx: also very true 18:04:40 yes, I can do that quick. 18:04:48 they do adapt as defenses improve 18:05:07 summary: for the past couple weeks I occasionally log in late at night to try and send reimbursements via bill pay. 18:05:21 and I kept getting some error "sorry this isn't available. Code: 12" 18:05:29 hrm.. odd 18:05:36 Well I finally tried it during business hours today and called them up. 18:05:53 Turns out they'd automatically locked our bill-pay account since it hadn't been used in a couple months. 18:06:03 So they un-locked it, and I sent the payments today. 18:06:04 o_O 18:06:16 well, thank you for chasing that down! 18:06:22 Ya. The person on the phone framed it as a "feature". 18:06:39 but that's a bit odd - locking it due to lack of use 18:06:44 I suggested that communicating it as a feature, instead of as "Code 12", would be an improvement. :) 18:06:49 right?!? 18:07:03 But, not we know. 18:07:06 So that's all. 18:07:11 s/not/npow 18:07:12 now 18:07:14 lol 18:07:18 dang, I need more coffee. 18:07:19 first day with the new fingers? ;) 18:07:33 that's simply a given, really 18:07:34 heh, something like that. 18:08:00 any closing thoughts? 18:09:10 either you're both deep in contemplation trying to come up with the perfect witticism with which to close 18:09:21 or we're late and you've already drifted away :) 18:09:29 i'm going to assume the latter :) 18:09:30 nothing here. 18:09:41 cool 18:09:46 thanks guys! :) 18:09:54 sorry again for the late start 18:09:58 #endmeeting