17:32:55 #startmeeting 17:32:55 Meeting started Mon Jun 10 17:32:55 2019 UTC. The chair is raub. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 17:32:55 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 17:33:15 #chair bdmc mamarley raub 17:33:15 Current chairs: bdmc mamarley raub 17:33:33 #topic 1. Check for Agenda Additions 17:34:23 I suppose that I could go read your Agenda. 17:34:53 If you feel like 17:34:58 #topic 2. Current Topics 17:35:22 So this week we have a meeting. jackhill and Mark Sidell 17:35:39 We didn't talk about the Square reader, because I didn't think that you would want to go through all of the effort to make it useful. 17:35:50 I can send the reminder today 17:35:58 bdmc: I can live with that 17:36:29 I also have a feeling the number of atendees will be low because summer and SELF 17:36:47 However, my "added" item might make that important. I don't know whether somebody at this week's meeting will step up and help. 17:37:04 raub: that is a good argument. 17:37:51 Well, maybe we can make an appeal, at least at the meeing, if not "published," for funds. 17:37:54 I also need to ping dsmacow since I forgot whether he will be in the TH meeting or not. If not, I will need to fetch the gear 17:38:26 bdmc: I thought you would not be attending meeting 17:38:35 I won't. 17:38:49 I was using the royal we. 17:38:59 the Steering Comittee we. 17:39:00 Yep. Need to check with dsmacow too 17:39:02 Aha 17:39:17 mamarley: what time do you plan on arriving? 17:39:27 raub: At the meeting thursday? 17:39:39 If you really want the Square reader, I can get that to you this afternoon. 17:39:39 Yep. I know you said you will not be at SELF 17:40:07 bdmc: only if it will work for you. 17:40:30 raub: I am flexible; what would be the best time for me to be there? 17:41:01 I'd say before 6:30; I might be before 6 so there is time to se tthings up 17:41:10 bdmc: who orders pizza? 17:41:11 raub: if you want to go to the effort of installing the App in your phone, AND getting the proper log-in information, then I will do it. 17:41:20 OK, I will be there at 18:00 then. 17:41:24 I can do that, as usual. 17:41:53 Thanks 17:42:12 I actually think I still have a Square reader, but my current phone sadly lacks a headphone jack so I cannot use it. I can bring it for one of you to use though. 17:42:18 bdmc: that is the problem. I am paranoid about extra apps. And my signal sucks in there 17:42:36 OK. Would it work off a laptop? 17:42:45 I was a little concerned about the Meetup messages, which seemed to imply that you had created a brand new listing, but I don't see that. 17:42:54 No. It needs a phone. 17:42:56 Does it need phone network or can it do wifi? 17:43:05 Any Internet connection works. 17:43:19 K, then I might have something 17:43:23 The reader needs a phone. 17:43:31 I have a burner phone 17:43:48 (The phone also needs to run Android or iOS.) 17:43:49 which brand new listing are we talking about? 17:43:56 As long as you can install applications off of the Android store, you are ok. 17:44:12 The Meetup announcement. 17:44:14 It is android. Let me see if I can get said app first. What is the name? 17:44:21 Square 17:44:37 I will need to reread the meetup announcement again 17:44:57 No, there only seems to be one. That is all that I was concerned about. 17:45:03 So do you need me to bring my Square reader or do you already have one? 17:45:27 mamarley: bring it. Two is one, one is none 17:45:31 I have one of my own, so I would recommend that you bring yours. 17:45:45 OK, I will see if I can find it tonight. 17:46:43 Thank you. 17:46:52 Are we ready for my "new" item? 17:47:00 bdmc: shoot 17:47:43 OK. As you will know, I have been looking into the IRS situation, and, as I think I also said, I found their recommended "abbreviated" method. 17:47:56 Go on 17:48:14 It is done online, and just has a lot of questions that were probably on the original application. 17:48:48 Then we should let the rest of the steering list know, i.e. Michael and the others 17:48:49 HOWEVER, and this is the part that I needed you "all" for, there is an almost $300 fee associated with it. 17:49:05 ! 17:49:11 Ouch 17:49:23 How much do we still have in the bank? 17:49:37 I have, or can find the answers, but at this point, we have JUST enough in the bank for this month plus that. 17:49:59 We could not buy July's pizza. 17:50:12 $450 or so. 17:50:17 Yeah. I feared we are not getting as much money as we need 17:50:32 Let's deal with this month 17:50:54 We are taking in something like $40-50 each month in donations. 17:50:56 We also need to be more aggressive about getting sponsors 17:51:19 mamarley: you could try to see if your employee wants to sponsor a meeting ;) 17:51:24 We are cheap 17:51:57 raub: How much is cheap, just so I could know for what I would be asking? 17:52:08 I need to learn how to give them the money, if approved, ( employee??? not employer? ) since the form says "Fee already paid: $295" 17:52:21 $100-300 17:52:35 $300-1000!!! 17:52:42 B-) 17:52:58 bdmc: I would reach out to Michael to see if he has ideas 17:53:00 ERROR: Received conflicting answers. 17:53:19 mamarley: https://trilug.org/sponsor-faq/ 17:53:22 The sky is the limit. 17:53:44 raub: Michael, answers? About? 17:54:27 about how to give them the money and so on 17:55:12 Oh. I was just going to ask them. 17:55:16 Since he (mhrivnak) ran the show last time 17:55:22 bdmc: that is what i meant 17:55:33 No, I mean the IRS. 17:55:40 OK, I can try to get SAS to sponsor a meeting. I can ask my boss about this after a team meeting we have on Thursday, but I'm not sure who the right person is, or if they will want to give any money at all. 17:56:41 mamarley: also tell them we could use a SAS talk too 17:56:42 mamarley: I would not go below $300. ( $300 or more???? ) 17:57:10 bdmc has a point 17:57:18 Yes, I agree. I would like to add that to the calendar. We could, today, offer them October or November to have the whole show. 17:57:43 raub: That would be outside of my department; we're just IT (web development and such), nothing really fancy. 17:57:48 mamarley: FYI, another group I belong to (ISSA) charges sponsors a few thousands 17:58:44 Oh, great, my boss literally just scheduled a one-on-one meeting we me tomorrow… I really don't like asking people for $… 17:58:52 As I said, we are cheap 17:59:16 mamarley: we can talk by email a bit hwo to approach that 17:59:26 Sure. 17:59:44 If you like, we might be able to come up with some kind of generic proposal for sponsors. What do you think Mauricio? 17:59:52 bdmc: yes 18:00:01 Didn't we talk about something like this recently? 18:00:06 bdmc: yep 18:00:14 I should have been more aggressive about it 18:00:29 I don't remember any details or who volunteered. ( it could be a group effort ) 18:00:33 #action raub act more like dictator 18:00:39 B-) 18:00:54 Won't work. He doesn't listen. 18:01:05 lol 18:01:18 bdmc: which a=day swill you be at SELF? 18:01:40 I'll be there a=day Thursday through Sunday. 18:01:58 I don't really plan to swill anything, though. 18:02:35 I understand. Lauren and I have been trying to schedule times so we can attend talks 18:03:44 I'm a bit confused about my job this year, so it will be "interesting." 18:03:57 Chinese curse? 18:04:03 Exactly. 18:04:32 #topic 3. Future Topics 18:04:33 The technical aspects have been greatly improved, but there are more rooms. 18:04:40 Good to hear 18:05:03 I will ping MongoDB for abstract/bio and see if I can get them to sponsor 18:05:41 Good idea. 18:05:45 BTW, I am not holding my breath Donald will give a talk this year 18:06:18 Incidentally, somewhat off topic, I sent a message to Steering this morning, but didn't see it go through. Did either of you? 18:06:43 raub: Good point. He hadn't actually picked a month, had he? 18:06:48 I need to check to see if I got anything from you 18:06:53 bdmc: nope 18:07:11 #topic 4. Tech Items 18:07:13 I wonder where it went. I didn't see a bounce message, either. 18:07:31 I still have not figured out why I cannot add mamarley to the steering wiki 18:07:42 I did post last week on the list for help but so far cickets 18:07:44 crickets 18:08:07 I do know he can at least do meetups and update the trilug.org website 18:08:14 I gather that the instructions are thin? 18:08:27 in a good day, yes 18:08:44 The weird part is that I can get to the root of that domain, but when I try to login to the wiki, I get a 401. 18:08:58 mamarley: would you like me to show you later on today how to send a reminder from meetup? We should send one out today 18:09:02 and email 18:09:10 Is it controlled through Apache user authentication, or something internal to the Wiki? 18:09:11 raub: Sure. 18:09:36 bdmc: the answer is moo. Find my original post to see what I gathered. 18:09:38 bdmc: It looks like Apache. 18:09:56 mamarley: you are welcome to probulate it 18:10:11 That's what I was starting to remember. As I also remember, that is .... darn .. Right!! LDAP. 18:10:38 LDAP? 18:10:38 * mamarley runs screaming off. 18:10:44 lol 18:11:00 * raub thinks mamarley wants NIS 18:11:14 So you have to add him to the LDAP database, with the correct permissions, and then the Wiki SHOULD agree. 18:11:53 I know nothing about that part of things, but I would guess that Aaron should be familiar with it. 18:12:02 OK. If that is the case I will take a look see at his account and compare with mine 18:12:23 I have not heard of qqx in a while 18:12:27 Sounds like a plan. 18:12:34 * mamarley will be right back, just a sec… 18:12:40 Neither have I. Not meetings or anything. 18:12:57 Perhaps a personal message? 18:13:09 bdmc: will 18:13:14 do 18:13:20 B-) 18:13:28 Ok, I need to go back to doing worky thingies 18:13:57 Understood. I will do similar things. ( applications and things like that -- thank you for the list ) 18:14:19 Sure thing 18:14:29 Are we trying to run away quickly, so that mamarley doesn't catch us? 18:14:37 mamarley: I think we are ending the meeting 18:14:42 bdmc: exactly 18:15:00 It will gorw chest hair on him 18:15:10 Maybe even a moustache 18:15:14 No comment. 18:15:44 you've chosen... wisely 18:15:51 Alright then, time to run 18:16:06 #endmeeting