17:36:42 <raub> #startmeeting
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17:36:51 <raub> #chait bdmc mamarley raub
17:37:07 <raub> #topic 1. Check for Agenda Additions
17:37:26 <raub> I do have one: I finally put the netactuate logo up
17:37:41 <bdmc> Interesing new command: chait
17:38:25 <raub> Oops
17:38:29 <bdmc> I don't think that I read Alan's message correctly.  I thought that we had the correct Steering Committee members in the Steering Wiki.
17:38:44 <raub> #chair bdmc mamarley raub
17:38:44 <Tribot> Current chairs: bdmc mamarley raub
17:38:53 <raub> Me too
17:39:09 <raub> There is a lot that is still undocumented at trilug
17:39:14 <bdmc> Was he talking about something else, or???
17:39:42 <raub> I'd have to read it again O=)
17:39:43 <bdmc> Yes, I have tried to add some documentation as far as it concerns my position.
17:40:58 <raub> We can only deal with known knowns and known unknowns
17:42:17 <bdmc> But it is much more fun to deal with the unknown unknowns.
17:42:33 <raub> Oh sure ;)
17:43:09 <raub> Moving on to
17:43:12 <raub> #topic 2. Current Topics
17:43:32 <raub> Next month is a talk I hope will attract people
17:43:47 <bdmc> I haven't seen any advertising, yet.
17:44:01 <raub> I put it on trilug today
17:44:11 <bdmc> Of course, last month, I didn't see an announcement, either.
17:44:40 <raub> It is not on meetup yet. mamarley do oyu want to do the honors?
17:45:13 <bdmc> That wasn't the announcement that I was talking about, but that, too.
17:45:21 <mamarley> Sure, I can do that.
17:45:41 <mamarley> But not right at this moment, as usual, because I am at work.
17:46:13 <raub> I understand. I did the website so it should help you out
17:46:46 <raub> bdmc: I think I know what you are talking about but that is under 5. General Business
17:47:31 <bdmc> ???
17:47:39 <raub> Ok, then I am clueless
17:47:58 <bdmc> What does that have to do with meeting announcements?
17:48:05 <bdmc> Or is this another topic?
17:48:43 <raub> As I said, I am cleless by your "That's wasn't the announcement that I was talking about" comment
17:49:05 <raub> So, moving on since there is nothing much else to say about next month's meeting
17:49:16 <bdmc> Every month, I expect to see a meeting announcement in TriLUG and TriLUG-Announce.
17:49:29 <bdmc> One or more.
17:49:48 <raub> Yeah, we need to be more active on that.
17:50:09 <bdmc> Last month, as far as I know, I never received either.
17:50:44 <raub> OK. I will send it out today
17:52:08 <raub> #topic 3. Future Topics
17:52:43 <raub> I will ask Jack Neely for an abstract and bio. And then we need to find speakers for Oct-Dec.
17:53:01 <mamarley> Isn't December usually the Christmas party?
17:53:08 <raub> Are we keeping a headcount?
17:53:41 <raub> mamarley: yeah but sometimes we mix that with a show-n-tell thingie. Like lightning talks or something. Just want to have options
17:54:09 <bdmc> There is a difference between show-and-tell and lightning talks.
17:54:37 <raub> bdmc: maybe but both need presenters
17:55:46 <bdmc> Certainly.  In the past, we have sent out an announcement a month or so before the December meeting, asking people to sign up for "a table," where they show of their toys.
17:56:00 <bdmc> ( darn -- of = off )
17:56:34 <raub> Just want to have us start thinking on that
17:57:17 <raub> BTW, the point about headcount is important. Also, what kind of info about our members we should know
17:57:26 <bdmc> If we get the survey ( poll ) out soon, we might get ideas, and volunteers, for October and November.
17:57:47 <raub> Reason is getting sponsors
17:58:22 <bdmc> Oh. I thought that we were aking the members what they wanted to see.
17:58:32 <raub> Good. Remind me by email to put that on the steering list. It should not only be us doing this
17:58:43 <bdmc> If this is for Marketing purposes, that is quite different.
17:58:44 <raub> bdmc: different things we want to know
17:59:05 <raub> one is to find out what members want
17:59:27 <raub> other is to be able to tell corporate sponsors our story
18:04:01 <raub> For instance, I am supposed to go meet teksystems about sponsorship
18:04:18 <bdmc> They SHOULD know who we are, but....
18:04:38 <raub> company yes. Person I am meeting...
18:06:09 <raub> I also found out the OWASP group is struggling. It might be wise to meet with them and talk about combined events
18:06:37 <bdmc> Giggle time.  I just got several messages with a ".eu" address, talking about a "new IRS" program.
18:06:54 <raub> lol
18:07:09 <bdmc> Yes, we have talked about some combinations with certain other people.
18:07:45 <raub> We need to revisit that
18:08:07 <raub> mamarley: if you know of other groups we should be involved with, don't be shy
18:08:08 <bdmc> Yes, nothing ever came of that, it just dropped on the floor.
18:08:23 <bdmc> I agree that we need to be more active on that front.
18:08:56 <mamarley> raub: There is a new Triangle IPv6 Users Group, but I haven't managed to make it to any of their meetings yet.
18:09:21 <bdmc> We may be one of the more general groups.  There are "single language" or platform groups.
18:09:32 <bdmc> mamarley: I have.  There has only been one.
18:09:46 <raub> But sometimes a give talk might work for both
18:09:59 <mamarley> I intended to go, but I had a scheduling conflict.
18:10:32 <bdmc> Exactly.  Somebody talking about MySQL ( Percona ) might appeal to the Python or PHP or... groups.
18:11:01 <raub> Yep
18:11:41 <bdmc> I can send word into the PHP and Drupal groups.  I don't know anybody else, or don't know that I know.
18:11:45 <raub> Anyway, just want you to be thinking on that. Second is we will talk on the list about what we should be asking on the questionnaire
18:12:13 <raub> Like, should we run another intro to linux class or even kubernetes?
18:12:24 <bdmc> But soon.  Not these six month, no answer, things that we have had going on.
18:12:41 <raub> OK
18:12:51 <raub> Moving on
18:12:55 <raub> #topic 5. General Business
18:13:00 <raub> IRS update?
18:13:02 <bdmc> Well, those aren't the only choices.
18:13:09 <raub> I agree
18:13:30 <bdmc> I haven't looked.  It has only just been a month, maybe less.  I will look today.
18:13:49 <bdmc> I would hope that I would get an e-mail response.
18:14:00 <raub> You expect too much from .gov
18:14:19 <bdmc> I live in hope.
18:14:45 <raub> lol
18:14:55 <raub> Ok, that is all I have today
18:15:48 <bdmc> We have just enough in the "bank" to make the same pizza order in August that we did in July.  ( about $20 extra, not counting IOUs. )
18:17:11 <raub> We still have a bit of time, which is why I want to meet with tek
18:17:50 <bdmc> True.  About three weeks, according to my mental calendar.
18:17:52 <raub> I do need to send out an email to the list about that.
18:19:19 <raub> Anything else we should add?
18:19:35 <bdmc> Not that I can think of.
18:19:59 <bdmc> Just communications with the members. ( on various topics )
18:20:10 <raub> mamarley?
18:20:12 * mamarley hat nichts.
18:20:43 <raub> Good
18:20:47 <raub> #endmeeting