17:48:11 #startmeeting 17:48:11 Meeting started Mon Sep 16 17:48:11 2019 UTC. The chair is raub. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 17:48:11 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 17:48:20 #chair bdmc mamarley raub 17:48:20 Current chairs: bdmc mamarley raub 17:48:29 That is good for several meetings, but not necessarily much else. 17:48:36 Yep 17:48:50 #topic 1. Check for Agenda Additions 17:49:02 Not I. 17:49:44 I take the same goes for mamarley 17:49:46 So, 17:49:49 #topic 2. Current Topics 17:50:03 I think last meeting was good 17:50:21 I do also. 17:50:29 raub: I approved your message. I also removed your moderate flag so you can post without moderation in the future. :) 17:50:38 Good topic, if not as sexy as some. 17:51:10 mamarley: That's no fun! 17:51:11 Tek Systems seem to have liked what we have. We are not on the point they have offered to sponsor but we have progresss 17:51:44 Jack did email me the slides so one of us can add to the event 17:51:58 Moving quickly to 17:52:01 #topic 3. Future Topics 17:52:06 I know that there has been nothing much on the Survey front since Cristobal's message. Can we get moving on that again? 17:52:12 We do need two more speakers 17:52:19 bdmc: we will get to that in a few 17:52:37 First, Oct/Nov speakers 17:52:47 Any ideas? 17:52:56 * mamarley is going to give his Linux Router presentation to NCSULUG tomorrow and, depending on how that goes, may be willing to give it to TriLUG. 17:53:03 Dr. Jasper offered to talk too 17:53:12 mamarley: keep us updated 17:53:17 * mamarley will. 17:53:35 Also, ATO is next month 17:54:21 If so, we have October and November, unless both of them want to be the same month. 17:54:29 We need to check with Todd to ensure we will have a table 17:54:43 bdmc: Let's assume we need one per 17:55:37 Then we have December. Do you want to do the Science Fair idea, or the "maybe" short talk(s) in the classroom? 17:56:24 bdmc: I honestly do not know how the science fair will work. But in the end I do not care; just want something 17:56:53 We've done it several years at Red Hat. It seemed popular. 17:56:59 We've done it before. People just bring various (preferably open-sourcy) projects they've been working on and show them. 17:57:30 OK, so let's ask The Other Michael to see if that is a possibility 17:57:42 Do you need it to be Red Hat? 17:57:48 * mamarley has been wanting to demo his floppy-drive organ at such an event for several years, but all his floppy drives broke and he can't source any more. :( 17:58:12 mamarley: Perhaps a plea to The Group? 17:58:35 Already tried that a while back and didn't get anything. I guess I could try again though. 17:58:42 bdmc: could not care. It is a place. We just need to start scouting for places in case we ant to be a diff location 17:58:55 I think that I have one or two machines with 3.5 drives. 17:59:06 You need them removed, correct? 17:59:09 mamarley: what kind of floppy drive? OWuld 3.5" do? 17:59:38 bdmc: Yes, and you couldn't realistically expect them not to break. I would pay you for them though. 17:59:53 raub: 3.5" is what I used previously, though 5.25" are good for bass. 18:00:03 I will ask around 18:00:13 I've derailed the meeting though, so sorry about that. 18:00:14 Remind me next week 18:00:20 No worries 18:00:29 It fits the Dec meeting topic 18:00:51 Onto the questionnaire 18:00:51 They do have to use the old-fashioned floppy interface though; USB drives won't work. 18:00:57 I want it out this month 18:00:57 Years and years ago, at the West Coast Computer Faire, I saw a gentleman demonstrate ( if I remember correctly ) raw data music ( Toccata and Fuge ( sp ) in D minor ) with a pair of 8 inch ones. He was replacing disks about every 15 seconds. 18:01:36 Fugue? Darn. Have to look it up. 18:02:12 That's it. ( Totally off topic, of course. ) 18:02:31 raub: great! What can we do to further the cause? 18:03:02 Review, feedback 18:03:29 Can you ( would you please ) re-distribute the address? 18:03:55 Sure. I will do that after the meeting 18:04:01 I will also skip 4. Tech Items for now 18:04:03 I agreed with some of the points that Cristobal made, but other ones seemed a bit pedantic ( that's funny coming from me ). 18:04:15 #topic 5. General Business 18:04:25 bdmc: IRS update 18:05:30 bdmc: take it 18:05:36 We received the rejection letter, as predicted by the phone call. I will need to read it more carefully, but it seems to say what I got on the phone call. We need to re-apply, using a slightly different form, via actual paper mail, and a $600 fee. 18:05:47 Typing as fast as I could. 18:06:16 bdmc: and, from what you told me, we have under $500 in the bank 18:06:25 We are still within time. We also need to file our missing ( $0 ) tax returns. 18:06:32 $474 18:06:40 Did they at least refund the money from the previous failed attempt? 18:06:51 How do we file $0 tax returns? 18:06:52 That's where the $474 came from. 18:06:57 Ah 18:07:27 mamarley: remember that $474 includes any future pizza budget. But we will get into that in a few 18:07:48 The IRS won't accept anything but the current year on line, but there are three or four companies, reasonably local, who have on-line facilities. 18:08:19 bdmc, mamarley: I did start writing the letter to the IRS. Need some feedback 18:08:20 I remember one in Columbia, SC, and, I think, somebody in Hickory or somewhere else in NC. 18:08:39 All on-line, anyway. 18:08:59 raub: Do you have the instructions from them? 18:09:00 bdmc: what do you mean by on-line here since you are mentioning physical locations? 18:09:13 bdmc: nope 18:09:22 The companies are based in those cities. Usually accounting firms. 18:09:55 raub: I was sure that I had sent the URLs. I will do so again. 18:10:34 It is basically irs.gov/eo ( if I remember correctly -- the "Charitable Organizations" page ) 18:11:06 Yup, that's it. 18:11:28 It is on the google drive, under Letters>IRS Letter 18:11:34 Ok 18:11:36 Second link in the middle of the page. "Reinstate Tax-Exempt Status" 18:12:38 Hmmm. Google drive. What's that? Do we have some sort of pointer on the Wiki? 18:13:53 I will put that there for oyu 18:15:54 The way I find it is go to google drive, select "share with me" and then find trilug 18:18:06 Well, whadda ya know! You learn something new every day. I so rarely use Google Drive, that I don't really know how to "drive" it. 18:18:32 Witchcraft 18:19:41 About the money, I think this is time to add a link for donations in the website 18:21:22 I agree. There were a couple of good suggestions a month or so ago. 18:22:00 If it is a simple Paypal button, I understand that things that are coded as "Donations" are free of extra charges. 18:22:35 I don't think that TriLUG has a Paypal account, though. Do we want to look into getting one? 18:22:49 That might be the easiest one to start; if we do not have an account, associate it with steering email 18:23:22 Shall I do that, then? 18:23:41 Sure thing 18:23:49 #action bdmc Open Paypal account for TriLUG. 18:24:05 The one of us can add the link in the site and announce it. 18:25:46 I will get the code for the button, and send it to the list. 18:26:22 #action bdmc Create Paypal Donate button and send to steering list. 18:26:24 Excellent 18:26:37 We test, announce, and life is good 18:26:57 Sometimes I wonder if we should give a "state of financial affairs on the meetings" 18:27:45 One thing that came up in CAcert recently ( we did a 360,000 mailing, asking for help! ) was some kind of "Invoice" that we could present to corporate people who wanted to write this off, or otherwise justify it. 18:28:00 Not a bad idea 18:28:47 I don't know what we might put on it, I don't know whether "Donation" would be appropriate. 18:29:43 Let's think on that then; it does not need to be solved today 18:29:57 I agree. Just getting the subject started. 18:31:39 Next? 18:32:01 I will see if we can put a page for swag in the site too 18:32:19 Other than that, I think we covered everything 18:32:29 Looks good to me. 18:32:32 mamarley: you good? 18:32:38 * mamarley is. 18:32:53 Meeting is adjourned then. Go set things on fire 18:33:02 #endmeeting