17:34:10 <raub> #startmeeting 17:34:10 <Tribot> Meeting started Mon Oct 7 17:34:10 2019 UTC. The chair is raub. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 17:34:10 <Tribot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 17:34:22 <raub> #chair bdmc mamarley raub 17:34:22 <Tribot> Current chairs: bdmc mamarley raub 17:34:39 <raub> #topic 1. Check for Agenda Additions 17:34:54 <raub> Moving on 17:34:57 <raub> #topic 2. Current Topics 17:35:12 <bdmc> What did you think of my suggestion this morning? 17:35:25 <raub> bdmc: about? 17:35:36 <bdmc> I sent you a possible speaker. 17:36:12 <bdmc> Or is that "Future Topics? 17:36:14 <raub> Didn't see it yet. Only saw your email replying the smil thingie 17:36:25 <raub> Let's make it future then\ 17:37:19 <raub> I did post the announcement to the triphython list; found out the guy who runs it works 2 doors to my right 17:37:23 <bdmc> We seem to be set for this month, both speaker and pizza-wise. 17:37:57 <bdmc> This electronic world does tend to both bring us together and spread us apart. 17:38:01 <raub> Yeah but we should make more of a point to remind me we are running on contributions 17:38:07 <raub> That too 17:38:30 <bdmc> Add it to the card deck permanently. 17:38:41 <raub> Also, I no longer expect a table at ATO. All my emails were left unanswered 17:39:01 <bdmc> We used to announce "Our sponsor tonight is YOU! Pay up!" 17:39:17 <raub> LOL 17:39:34 <raub> I will see about updating the announcement slidedeck properly before the meeting 17:39:37 <bdmc> If I remeber correctly, I sent Todd a couple of messages, too. 17:39:48 <raub> Instead of a half-ass 5 minutes job before the talk 17:40:11 <bdmc> Oh, yes. I also heard from Aaron this morning! 17:40:36 <raub> Yeah. I do wish I had heard from him a month ago, but we move on 17:40:54 <bdmc> A month ago, two months ago, three months ago..... 17:41:00 <raub> Yeah 17:41:36 <raub> I do not know the attendance trend yet so cannot recommend pizza numbers 17:42:00 <bdmc> I haven't looked, either, but it is --- oh, yes. It's this week. 17:42:21 <bdmc> 17 have signed up. 17:42:28 <bdmc> That's low. 17:42:53 <raub> Still have two days. Chris Calloway, the python guy, was excited about it 17:42:55 <raub> Yep 17:43:16 <raub> Moving on 17:43:19 <raub> #topic 3. Future Topics 17:43:32 <raub> OK, we do need a Nov speaker. bdmc? 17:43:36 <bdmc> June and July were 21. 17:44:27 <bdmc> I don't think that I have anything to talk about. Don't we have some this and that things that we can use to fill space? 17:44:59 <raub> Yes. Like the email you mentioned 17:45:29 <bdmc> Hmmm. "A brief introduction to the Linux Command Line." What else..... How to get to the meeting place. 17:46:16 <bdmc> History of UNIX, and how it became Linux? 17:46:45 <bdmc> We'd get a lot of "audience participation" in either one of those. 17:46:56 <raub> Probably 17:47:16 <raub> I did send out the questionnaire 17:47:32 <raub> Don't care it is not perfect. The great is the enemy of the good 17:47:39 <bdmc> Especially since there are some members who have been around for a lot of that history. 17:47:46 <bdmc> I don't think that it went anywhere. 17:47:58 <raub> We probably have members that were alive before linux 17:48:05 <raub> Hmmm. I wonder why 17:48:15 <bdmc> I KNOW we do. Before UNIX, that's a bit harder. 17:48:29 * mamarley , even, is technically older than Linux. :) 17:48:45 <mamarley> By about 6 months. 17:48:48 <bdmc> I think that I saw a message from the mail system, saying that it needed to be cleared. 17:48:50 <raub> I see why. It is waiting to be aproved because fat mail 17:48:56 <raub> mamarley: hwo do you feel? 17:49:12 <bdmc> mamarley: "comma" is older than Linux? 17:49:35 <mamarley> bdmc: Your client must handle CTCP ACTION messages weird. 17:49:46 <mamarley> I see that as "[13:48:28] -*- mamarley , even, is technically older than Linux. :)" 17:50:20 <bdmc> That is what I got, too. It still doesn't make sense. 17:50:36 <bdmc> OHHHH! You mean that YOU are older. OK!! 17:50:50 <raub> bdmc's client might be more helpful than others. i.e. right text. Mine is all in full ASCII glory 17:51:52 <raub> If one of you could approve the questionnaire email, I would appreciate. As a matter of principle I do not approve my own emails 17:52:08 <mamarley> I thought I put you on the no-approval-required list. 17:52:16 <bdmc> Ah principle principal. 17:52:29 <bdmc> Or is that schminciple? 17:52:57 <raub> could be because reply to != sender because sending right from within google wuestionnaire thingie 17:52:58 <bdmc> I don't have any idea what, or how, to do. 17:53:12 <raub> It is in the wiki 17:53:14 * mamarley knows. Just a sec. 17:53:39 <bdmc> Ah. That explains it. I can't read. ( Well, I can't find a lot of stuff in the Wiki. ) 17:53:59 <raub> bdmc: remember that even Tek systems offered to make a short presentation; I can check the topics 17:54:12 <bdmc> I can do some research on the UNIX history thing, if you like. We could do sort of a tag-team thing in November. 17:54:21 <raub> Sure 17:54:37 <bdmc> I don't remember seeing any topics. Not in what you told us, anyway. 17:55:09 <bdmc> I remember a lot of that history, but the memories are fading. 17:55:09 <raub> I do not remember writign them down, so I need to get back to them 17:55:33 <mamarley> I think I'm going to run out of time before I can get this message approved though. I first have to dig through my old email again to find the URL and password for the steering wiki, then I have to dig through the steering wiki again to find the password for the mailing list. 17:55:42 <mamarley> And I need to leave for a meeting in two minutes. 17:55:45 <raub> Moving onto 17:55:50 <raub> mamarley: OK 17:55:56 <raub> It can wait to later on today 17:56:06 <raub> #topic 4. Tech Items 17:56:23 <raub> We do need to get serious about updating pilot 17:57:46 <raub> And finally 17:57:49 <raub> #topic 5. General Business 17:57:58 <bdmc> mamarley: I just looked at MailMan admin, Mailing List blocks and Passwords, but still don't know what to do. I guess that I can figure it out. 17:58:17 <raub> bdmc: if there is no info, I can add it 17:58:23 <mamarley> I just accepted the mail. I've got to go now. Bye. 17:58:31 <raub> mamarley: danke 17:58:39 <raub> bdmc: any IRS update? 17:59:33 <bdmc> What are you looking for? We received their decision, and guidance on the way forward. However, until we have $600 of "free" money, there is nothing to do. 18:00:10 <raub> bdmc: so the other fee we paid we are not getting it refunded, right? 18:01:23 <bdmc> Yes, we got that back. That's why our current balance is about 280. ( I will check. ) 18:02:56 <raub> OK. Also, did you have time to fight with making square run in our website? If you have some info I can give it a try 18:04:03 <bdmc> Memory was off. The balance as of this moment is $469.98. 18:04:43 <raub> That is OK. My plan is getting the square donation thingie up and then announce to the members 18:05:56 <bdmc> I did some work, and then put it aside. I will get back to it and get ready. I was working with their "sample code," and it didn't work perfectly. However, I think that I know what I need to do. We want a "blank entry" for this don't we? Not a pre-determined amount? 18:06:16 <raub> Yeah. 18:06:46 <raub> BTW, you could clone the current website and use that to update the test one so you have a place to try 18:07:18 <bdmc> OK. I have sample code, as well as their documentation, for that case. It should be possible to put a "button ( actually a blank and a button ) on a page, and then when you click the button, it takes you to Square to actually deal with the sensitive information. 18:07:31 <raub> Excellent 18:08:09 <bdmc> It is something that I have done before with Paypal ( and perhaps Square ), so it should be relatively straight-forward. 18:08:27 <bdmc> ( "the test one???" ) 18:08:32 <raub> Cool 18:09:05 <bdmc> what do you mean 18:09:08 <bdmc> ? 18:09:16 <raub> I know of it from the repos. I think qqx mentioned it before in one of the emails when we were switching to the new interface 18:09:35 <raub> i.e. when he asked people to try the jeckyl version of the website 18:09:55 <raub> http://test.trilug.org 18:10:20 <bdmc> Not exactly a live system. 18:10:46 <raub> I will copy the current site into it first 18:11:06 <bdmc> OK, Thank you. Then I will need to work out how to get there from here. 18:11:07 <raub> And hope that suffices 18:12:23 <bdmc> ( Off topic -- at this point, I would say that we are on an 11 month. ) 18:13:44 <raub> How bad is that? 18:14:23 <bdmc> I am talking about pizzas. Not bad or good. 18:14:38 <raub> Oh. I thought still on last topic 18:15:15 <bdmc> That was why I said that I was off topic. 18:15:57 <raub> Aha 18:16:03 <bdmc> Anyway, anthing else. I will work on the Square interface, and let you know where I get. 18:16:14 <raub> Ok. I am done 18:16:18 <bdmc> Darn. I keep missing question marks these days. 18:16:29 <raub> They are evil 18:16:43 <bdmc> How about the upside-down ones? 18:17:04 <raub> They are el diabolico (sp?) 18:17:11 <bdmc> B-) 18:17:22 <raub> Ok, I am done. Anything else? 18:17:28 <bdmc> I don't know how I might create one, so I am safe. 18:17:36 <bdmc> I'm done, too. 18:17:36 <raub> good 18:17:41 <raub> alright then 18:17:45 <raub> #endmeeting