17:29:41 #startmeeting 17:29:41 Meeting started Mon Sep 14 17:29:41 2020 UTC. The chair is Jmainguy. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 17:29:41 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 17:29:46 #chair raub noway2 17:29:46 Current chairs: Jmainguy noway2 raub 17:29:51 bdmc: you der? 17:29:58 Yes 17:30:03 #chair bdmc 17:30:03 Current chairs: Jmainguy bdmc noway2 raub 17:30:21 good to see you all =), hope yall had a good weekend 17:30:42 https://etherpad.soh.re/p/trilug is agenda I am going off of today, anything yall want to add to the agenda? 17:32:06 I have nothing extra to formally add, but I do have a question though regarding the audit of the current pilot services. 17:32:28 now is a fine time to talk about that, go ahead 17:32:37 #topic auditing pilot services 17:33:12 The meeting minutes were captured with a tool that looks like it's a derivation of GIT. I was wondering about it as I had never seen it before. 17:33:34 Does it run standalone, a daemon process, or is it tied to the web server or something? 17:33:49 Are you talking about MeetBot? 17:33:53 tribot is a service on the server, and it has this module for capturing the minutes. https://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot 17:34:03 I believe its in tribot users cron to keep it running 17:34:20 Ok. makes sense. I will check into that. 17:34:45 I lied about the crontab, it is the user tribot running it though 17:34:56 if you cant find it let me know and I can help dig as well 17:35:19 Sounds good. 17:35:31 bdmc: raub any agenda items yall wanna add? 17:35:45 Not I. 17:38:01 #topic review action items from past meeting 17:38:16 jeoff did end up announcing the meeting 17:38:30 noway2: fair to say the auditing of services is ongoing? 17:38:42 some of it is documented in steering.trilug.org wiki as well 17:39:46 Yes. I will look there too. My plan is to get a list of the applications installed and start there. Knowing about things like the Meetbot serveice, etc is helpful. Last meeting someone mentioned LDAP authentication too. 17:40:03 I know that I did some documentation a year or more ago. 17:40:11 yeah ldap is the big one, that does the auth for ssh and other things 17:40:22 bdmc++ noway2++ 17:40:46 sshd, email, ldap, mailing lists, website are the big ones I would say 17:40:53 but plenty more I am missing I am sure 17:41:02 Don't forget home directories. 17:41:05 ^^ 17:41:18 we serve public_html from the home directories as well 17:41:30 That is actually the biggest part. The most important, as you said, is LDAP. 17:41:57 Agreed, porting users was one of the key functions. I think we're going to have to manually re-configure a lot of the server processes due to change in configuration file format. 17:42:00 feel free to email during the week if you get stuck or are unsure about anything 17:42:09 noway2: lol yup 17:42:29 it is definitly initially scary when looking at it as a whole 17:42:46 noway2: you did see the wiki entry on the server's contents, right? 17:43:32 We will have to take it a bite at a time, yes, I have seen the wiki, but not the server content specifically, looking now. 17:44:04 yeah not seeing that page from the main initial page, if you have it handy raub or know how to find it, that would be cool 17:44:54 https://steering.trilug.org/wiki/index.php/PhysicalServerLayout 17:45:14 ty sir 17:45:18 raub++ 17:45:28 There was also https://steering.trilug.org/wiki/index.php/PilotUpgradePlan but it is old 17:45:44 noway2: we should add the data you find form the audit to those pages 17:46:04 jmainguy++ 17:46:09 agreed. 17:46:26 #topic September meeting 17:46:52 what went well, speaker was willing to step in a the last minute, gave a great talk, people on the call were great 17:47:20 I went ahead and moderated chat / did live helpdesk for a few things, that seemed helpful 17:47:56 anything else yall can think of that went well? 17:48:06 Jmainguy: good since a meeting I had which was supposed to expire on 5pm ended at 8pm 17:48:15 lol nice 17:48:29 He gave an excellent presentation, especially for short notice. He is obviously very knowledgeable and can communicate it well. 17:49:02 Had a few technical hiccups, but that's to be expected. 17:49:27 yeah he was reaaaaaly technical and knowledgeable, definitly over my head 17:49:35 but I want to try following his guides he wrote 17:49:42 really good info 17:49:48 what didnt go well 17:50:04 Yes, he has done other versions of this in the past. You might want to look at historic stuff on the website. 17:50:09 bdmc++ 17:50:32 internet bandwidth might have been an issue for a few attendees, should look into that 17:50:38 The topic largely went over my head too. I understood enough to to follow most of it, but not all. One other thing that went well is that Jitsi works surprisingly well for a free service. 17:50:41 I was surprised that Jeff seemed to have a couple of network issues. 17:50:54 yeah Jeff was the one talking to me about the issues 17:51:01 not sure if on his end, or he just got picked on 17:51:17 we had 24ish attendees, which I think was great 17:51:35 we had to swap speakers last minute, that was nerve racking 17:51:38 but it worked out 17:52:33 Yes, it is nice to have people who can speak at the drop of a hat. Brian said more than once that he wanted to add more to that talk, but I thought that it was very good, anyway. 17:52:57 yeah he was great 17:53:08 #topic october 17:53:13 Jeff should be good to go 17:53:22 I will follow up to ensure he will be good for this 17:53:50 #topic november 17:54:00 #action Jmainguy to message Peter and ensure he is good 17:54:06 I really need to do that, cuz I havent yet 17:54:23 if yall come across any potential speakers definitly let us know, we always looking for some 17:54:25 Give you a chance to introduce yourself. 17:54:30 bdmc: yup for sure 17:55:07 anything else before we move onto general business? 17:55:13 nope 17:55:51 #topic General business 17:55:55 As far as topics, I would consider asking Jeff (?) to do a more introductory level talk on the mesh network / mesh VPN. I tried to search while he talked, but there is a knowledge gap. I suspect I was not alone in that. 17:56:16 noway2++ not a bad idea, that was Brian (very confusing I know) 17:56:33 worth reaching out to him on that as we get closer to Jan-may depending on our speaker lineup 17:56:39 Jeff might know, too. 17:56:42 true 17:57:21 our current spending is $0 to my knowledge, and we are not currently getting donations either, with our meetings being virtual 17:57:24 Off that topic, but still general, our current bank balance ( credit union ) is $462.25. 17:57:30 bdmc: ty sir 17:57:44 do we want to offer to order pizza for the speaker atleast? 17:58:00 or delivery if they prefer something else 17:58:05 We are paying $5 per month in service charges. 17:58:12 bdmc: for the bank account? 17:58:13 Jmainguy: I like that idea. 17:58:22 Yes. 17:58:24 ack, ty 17:58:31 I like the idea of offering them a pizza. 17:58:46 Could move bank account somewhere else 17:59:00 #action Jmainguy will add offering to order pizza (or similiar priced food) to the speaker, while we remain in virtual only phase 17:59:05 @bdmc, is there a dollar figure or something that we could get the balance above to suspend the fee? 17:59:24 ^^ prefer to get above that balance if thats a thing, easier than moving the bank account likely 17:59:54 bdmc: think you could check on the credit unions offerings around that? 17:59:54 No idea. I will investigate. I would REALLY not want to move the account randomly. 17:59:57 ty sir 18:00:15 #action bdmc to look into getting $5 reduced or dropped for the bank account 18:00:15 I am thinking it's probably treated as a business account, which makes things tricky. 18:00:25 Just a suggestion. No dog in the race I have 18:00:30 Yes, it is. 18:00:35 $60 isnt unreasonable, but be nice if it was free =) 18:00:56 again, if yall have time to listen to https://trilug.org/media/trilug-organizational-mtg-2010-12-01.wav its pretty great 18:01:07 we out of time so I will call the meeting here unless yall disagree 18:01:23 If we were able to accept donations, we could "beg" during meetings and other ways. 18:01:38 Im good. We can punt the 503C till next week. 18:01:44 bdmc: yep very true, I think we should look into that based on what you find for the bank account 18:01:53 if our spend is $0, then we dont really need to ask for money 18:02:03 but if our spend is > 0, I agree we need to look into replenishing it 18:02:12 It isn't. It is $5 per month, minimum. 18:02:17 bdmc++ 18:02:38 I did write some code to use our Square account, but it never made it to the web site. 18:02:42 I will add that to next weeks agenda, looking into getting money 18:02:53 yeah we can likely get that merged and live 18:03:01 thank you for writing that btw 18:03:22 raub: bdmc anything else for today? 18:03:32 Use of CC these days is so ubiquitous that it would be a good idea. 18:03:39 noway2++ 18:03:45 However, I have held things up for long enough so time to go. 18:03:53 raub: you good? 18:04:37 I really do mean it, thank you all for showing up for these meetings and serving the community, means alot 18:04:45 talk to you all next week 18:04:57 Next week, same time, same sandbox. 18:05:00 =) 18:05:50 #endmeeting