18:38:14 #startmeeting 18:38:14 Meeting started Mon Dec 28 18:38:14 2020 UTC. The chair is jeoff. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 18:38:14 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 18:38:23 #topic January meeting 18:39:07 raub: thanks for reaching out to the steering list 18:39:31 How long do we have until the January meeting? 18:39:33 Sure 18:39:49 Should be about the 13th. 18:39:52 2nd Thursday of January 18:40:04 That's plenty of time 18:40:27 I'll reach out to the mailing list today and see who is willing to present 18:40:46 The sooner we find someone the more time we can create the buzz 18:40:56 jeoff++ 18:41:19 Is there anything else regarding this? 18:41:36 What do you mean? 18:41:51 This topic 18:42:09 Nope; we can continue on the list 18:42:20 cool 18:43:06 #topic resignation and continuity planning 18:43:21 What happens now that Mainguy has resigned? 18:43:52 We need to find a replacement. Reassigning duties should work 18:44:35 Do we hold another election? 18:45:23 AFAIK this never has happened so we are in unchartered waters. Don't think a procedure was ever done 18:45:46 Huh 18:45:53 Eithr volunteer someone, or an election. 18:45:53 I do know that technically the steering committee is elected and then they assign the positions 18:46:08 Or what bdmc_ just said ;) 18:46:43 Since our formal elections aren't held for several months, .... 18:47:01 Are either of you interested in moving to Chair? 18:47:38 No, thank you. 18:48:13 jeoff: not feeling like doing it? 18:48:42 I can, but I figured I'd give the option to you two first 18:50:55 Fresh blood ( on the floor ) 18:50:59 B-) 18:51:09 LOL 18:51:48 jeoff: I will only do if nobody else wants to. And until election 18:53:19 You have much more experience on the TriLUG board than I do. I am willing to take the role of Chair, but if you want it, it is yours 18:55:44 We are going nowhere slowly. 18:56:05 OK, I will take it until election 18:56:11 raub: ty 18:56:45 jeoff: is there anybody at your work you can con into giving a talk? 18:57:15 I know that we are trying to have the same meetings as a year ago, but "on line." Is there perhaps something "different" that we might try? 18:58:00 bdmc_: I am all years. Insanity is repeating the same action and expecting a different outcom 18:58:18 Slack? 18:59:16 jeoff: I think we should put that to the vote by the other members 19:00:16 members as in committee or general trilug? 19:00:25 I really don't know whether a different format or different style would make any difference. 19:01:09 We were getting more members, generally, when we were "in person." 19:01:19 General audience. 19:01:46 Maybe start a conversation in the mailing list, rather than a formal survey. 19:01:47 It would at least make the async part easier 19:01:51 You may find the steering list is not particularly responsive. 19:02:21 I was talking about the general list. See if we can start a BBQ conversation. 19:02:35 Hmmm.... BBQ 19:03:36 Just about the meeting format, content, etc. 19:04:04 Especially since we are going to have to continue for the next several months, at least. 19:04:16 Makes sense 19:04:32 Yep 19:05:36 It might be worthwhile setting up some people like Alan and Cristobal ( Bill F, Michael H. ) as being primed to contribute, before starting the conversation. 19:07:12 I do agree with your point. bdmc_ if you remember we asked last year what people wanted, but that was before covid 19:07:14 Dwayne would also be good, I think. 19:07:20 Yes 19:08:26 raub: Exactly. We did get good results from that, and it might be good to revisit that. Perhaps just for our use, perhaps and more fodder for the conversation. 19:08:36 ( would be good ) 19:09:16 Agreed. jeoff I will let you know where that questionnaire is so you can understand the context 19:09:28 raub: ty 19:09:57 I think both you and bdmc_'s point is that we need to adapt 19:10:43 As we said to begin with, the current model does not seem to be very hot. 19:12:34 Perhaps it is just the "having everybody at home" problem. I have a cousin who is really looking forward to getting rid of her two daughters to school. 19:13:07 You know, this may be an interesting thread starter 19:15:07 Another meeting topic might be either a free-for-all or a panel discussion on "how to work from home effectively in today's world." 19:16:48 Hmmm, maybe that would be a good topic for January meeting. And if we give a few weeks of advance warning to the people we may have a nice talk 19:17:06 jeoff: thoughts? 19:17:43 raub: would we source the talk ourselves or look for a speaker? 19:18:44 If we make the meeting like bdmc_ suggested, we just open the floor and act like handlers. Let the audience add to the discussion 19:19:17 (or do it in the mailing list) 19:19:41 I get it now. That is an amazing idea 19:20:19 bdmc_ does have some good ideas 19:22:15 Sounds like we have a plan 19:23:27 indeed 19:23:38 I still think that we need to start the "what do we do" converstion on the mailing list, too. 19:23:46 Yes 19:24:03 Two diff topics, one for the list and one for the meeting 19:25:30 Two questions. Who is going to start the conversation in the mailing list, and should I get in touch with Alan beforehand? ( and others? ) 19:26:13 Also, I think that the meeting annoucemnt should go out as soon as possible. ( today? ) 19:26:18 jeoff or I can get the mailing list ball rolling. And you can reach out to Allan 19:26:32 And, I do agree about the timing 19:26:59 I can send him a message today. When do you want to start that conversation? This week or next? 19:27:17 This week 19:27:28 (at least to start) 19:27:28 raub: I can get the mailing list ball rollling 19:27:58 Excellent jeoff. Let me know what I can do to help 19:28:21 OK, I will warn him to watch for the conversation. ( remember that we are talking about two different messages in the mailing list -- meeting announcement and "what next" conversation ) 19:29:22 Agreed 19:31:12 So, we have two plans. We can keep talking by email as needed 19:31:47 Thanks 19:31:56 jeoff: just to make sure, you are going to send the announcemet about the meeting, right? 19:31:57 Exactly 19:32:20 Excellent. So let's end the meeting as it has gone way past its bed time 19:33:13 raub: yes, I am going to send the announcement about the meeting 19:34:23 Have a good night, both of you. 19:34:32 you too 19:34:41 #endmeeting 19:34:51 I think jeoff will have to do it 19:35:00 It doesn't like you. 19:35:10 #endmeeting