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18:42:22 <raub> #chair noway2 jeoff
18:42:22 <Tribot> Current chairs: jeoff noway2 raub
18:42:37 <raub> #topic 1. Check for Agenda Additions
18:42:41 <raub> Anyone?
18:43:03 <noway2> No additions to what was sent out.
18:43:18 <jeoff> No additions
18:43:50 <raub> Allright
18:43:59 <raub> #topic 2. Current Topics
18:44:32 <raub> For this month's meeting, people gave a few suggestions for stuff they would like us to present
18:45:07 <noway2> Is there a list? Unfortunately, I got detained and got home too late to catch the presentation.
18:45:25 <raub> I think I wrote down a few but I do know someone emailed a list. We can compile and ask others to add to it
18:46:14 <raub> I will find said email and refer to it in the steering list
18:46:27 <raub> (unless someone else does it before me ;) )
18:47:22 <raub> Next Month Dwain will be giving a suse-related talk that is close to the centos adventure.
18:47:52 <raub> He has not sent the blurb yet so we cannot announce. Either I or someone else can reach out to him so we can announce it this week
18:48:12 <raub> Questions/thoughts on these two items?
18:48:36 <jeoff> No thoughts or questions
18:48:52 <raub> #topic 3. Future Topics
18:49:28 <raub> First something I just remembered: we should investigate a way to record the meetings on jitsi
18:49:38 <noway2> Good idea.
18:49:52 <raub> Anyone wants to guinea pig that?
18:50:12 <jeoff> https://community.jitsi.org/t/recording-in-my-computer-not-dropbox/19235
18:50:22 <raub> jeoff: that was quick ;)
18:50:24 <jeoff> I can play with that a bit, but I think it needs to be hosted
18:50:32 <jeoff> 2021 is the year of the Jeff
18:50:39 <raub> Woohoo!
18:51:36 <raub> Once we get the moya/pilot adventure done, we can think on hosting a jitsi instance n moya
18:51:48 <noway2> I would agree with that.
18:51:55 <jeoff> yeah
18:51:58 <raub> Since it only needs to record *one* event at a time
18:52:37 <raub> Other than that, jeoff did you have time to ponder on your presentation/class thingie?
18:52:52 <jeoff> still thinking through it. LAMP will be easiest
18:53:46 <noway2> That would (still) be a relavent topic. I did some looking and though it is growing, Ngix doesn't have all the fatures, so LAMP still wins
18:54:04 <noway2> While the front ends are changing, ie. Django or Rails, the back end is still Lamp.
18:54:20 <raub> You were in this month's meeting: that probably might be a good start as it is something hands on people can use
18:54:42 <jeoff> yeah, whatever is easiest I'll stick with
18:54:50 <jeoff> Nginx will probably win
18:55:08 <raub> noway2: I dunno. We use ngix at work and it seems to do the job. It all depends ont he scope of the presentation
18:55:42 <noway2> I can't recall exactly what, but there was something I ran into when I was looking at running Xenforo on it where it was going to be an issue.
18:56:10 <raub> If people in the end feel like they can put something together that is useful and secure, we did our part.
18:57:45 <raub> I suggest we continue on the steering list talking about what people have asked and what we plan on providing them
18:58:23 <raub> But I would like to remind everyone that right now we have nothing for April or later
18:58:29 <noway2> I missed last week (I was working a covid vaccine clinic) but the week before, we discussed the idea that I'll reach out to Kevin about doing a joint Linux - Ham radio presentation.
18:59:17 <raub> noway2: Oh yeah. I will add that tp https://steering.trilug.org/wiki/index.php/UpcomingMeetings without putting a time
18:59:29 <jeoff> Finding speakers will be a bit of work. We have plenty of time to find some
19:00:08 <raub> jeoff: Agreed
19:00:46 <raub> We need to find out when Percona is supposed to talk
19:01:13 <raub> There is probably an email out there with the info
19:01:27 <jeoff> I don't think it is a safe bet to rely on the Percona talk any more. Too much time has passed
19:02:03 <raub> We can ping them out, and see how it goes. And keep on going assuming it will not happen
19:03:04 <raub> There are other speakers. And we should also encourage members to talk
19:04:30 <jeoff> I think we've briefly mentioned a need for speakers during our meetings
19:05:03 <raub> Yes. We need to keep on hammering that both in meetings and email/meetup/whatever
19:06:14 <noway2> Maybe mention specific topics the members have said they want to hear about, it might ping someone's attention more than a generic request for speakers.
19:06:27 <raub> noway2: +++
19:06:29 <jeoff> makes sense
19:07:28 <raub> Found email: look for "TriLUG Digest, Vol 3804, Issue 1"
19:09:22 <raub> Matthew Glassman's reply
19:10:19 <raub> I also have other notes from the meeting I need to dig
19:11:02 <raub> Any other thoughts on this topic?
19:12:05 <raub> Alright, then moving on
19:12:08 <raub> #topic 4. Tech Items
19:12:37 <raub> noway2: did you have time to work on the upgrade?
19:13:17 <noway2> Made some progress, a key piece actually.  Managed to log into Moya. There was some confusion about it being the root of an owned system versus iit being a hosted one.
19:13:37 <noway2> Have a little bit of difficulty from here at work as I don't have IPv6 but I was able to get in using port 665 I think it was.
19:13:38 <raub> Another mystery solved!
19:13:58 <noway2> Now I am reviewing LibVirt / KVM documentation to learn how to spin up a new host. I've never done that before.
19:14:23 <raub> noway2: I use it all the time, so if you have questions email me
19:14:32 <noway2> Thank you. I appreciate that.
19:16:04 <raub> Sure thing
19:16:32 <raub> Since bdmc is not here, unless there is a topic someone wants to share, we are done
19:16:57 <noway2> whats the email after upgrade?
19:18:19 <raub> The Matthew thingie is about possible topics for a talk.
19:18:49 <raub> (assuming that is what you asked)
19:19:16 <noway2> Ok. I was looking at the item 4b on the agenda. I know that "reputation" seems to be a big problem ? these days, kind of like a secret RBL that you can't control.
19:19:43 <noway2> What's more is that there seems to be a tendency to block whole segments when one host is a bad actor.  It's beena problem for Pilot and I am having problems with it recently too.
19:19:58 <raub> Oh that. I think we will need to upgrade pilit before addressing that
19:20:07 <noway2> Yes. Agreed.
19:20:08 <raub> noway2: knee-jerk reaction FTW
19:22:01 <raub> Anything else we should talk about?
19:22:19 <noway2> I think I am good.
19:22:25 <raub> jeoff: ?
19:23:39 <jeoff> I'm also good
19:24:02 <raub> Well then. Thanks for waiting on me!
19:24:07 <raub> #endmeeting