18:35:25 <raub> #startmeeting 18:35:25 <Tribot> Meeting started Mon Feb 8 18:35:25 2021 UTC. The chair is raub. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 18:35:25 <Tribot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 18:35:37 <raub> #chair jeoff noway2 18:35:37 <Tribot> Current chairs: jeoff noway2 raub 18:36:12 <raub> #topic 1. Check for Agenda Additions 18:36:23 <raub> I have: percona 18:36:58 <jeoff> I glanced over that email. It looks like Percona is trying to do February? 18:37:09 <raub> Yes. 18:37:17 <raub> So, 18:37:20 <raub> #topic 2. Current Topics 18:37:55 <noway2> If we have a schedule conflict, who would be more accomodating to moving the date? 18:38:01 <raub> It seems they had agreed to do February a while ago. And they are way less flexible than others 18:38:15 <raub> I am asking Dwain right now 18:39:32 <jeoff> They agreed to do February before? A bit surprised 18:39:53 <noway2> must have been quite a while ago. I don't recall discussing them before. 18:40:58 <raub> I felt something for Percona was up but I could just not find the email (I think some went to spam or something) 18:42:18 <raub> This is why https://steering.trilug.org/wiki/index.php/UpcomingMeetings#Schedule is important 18:42:36 <raub> I was actually updating it this morning 18:44:50 <bdmc> Sorry I'm late. I've been on the phone, it keeps ringing. 18:45:17 <raub> bdmc: Peggy or Nigerian Prince? 18:45:33 <raub> bdmc: main topic is Percona 18:47:17 <bdmc> B-) 18:48:12 <raub> Found out toda Peter was scheduled to talk this month 18:49:49 <bdmc> Oh, so he knew this, and nobody else? 18:50:45 <noway2> That's how I read it. Did you see the email sent out this morning to the steering group? (check spam folder?) 18:52:20 <raub> I will have to take reponsibility for this. I also do not know of an abstrct sent for the percona talk 18:52:34 <bdmc> Yes, I saw it. I gather that Maria is Peter's assistant ( for these matters ), and that Jon had arranged all of this before he disappeared? 18:53:04 <jeoff> Seems like it 18:53:17 <raub> Something like that. Last time Peter was supposed to talk on Nov, but that did not work out 18:53:23 <bdmc> I'm sure that Dwain can shift more easily than Peter. 18:54:02 <bdmc> It will make the actual event a Surprise! for all of the attendees. B-) 18:54:33 <raub> You can say that twice 18:58:05 <raub> I am sending email to percona; talk amongst yourselves 18:58:54 <noway2> Ok. Speaking of future topics, I got in contact with Kevin. Looks like we're having some mutual email issues, but the short of it is that I think he is receptive to doing a presentation on Linux-Ham 19:00:14 <bdmc> That will be fun. 19:00:27 <bdmc> Probably "any" time. 19:03:49 <raub> Do add that to https://steering.trilug.org/wiki/index.php/UpcomingMeetings#Undated 19:04:04 <raub> OK, emails to percona and Dwain are out 19:05:05 <bdmc> I suppose that if Peter isn't willing to adjust by a month, we ( you ) could send out an emergency "re-announcement." 19:06:02 <raub> bdmc: that is the plan. He is a CEO who give lots of talks, so we have to account for that 19:08:34 <bdmc> And he has been very helpful to us in the past, so we don't want to over-impose. 19:09:13 <raub> Yep 19:10:08 <noway2> On a (similar) side note, I remember from way back when the presentation on SQLite back when it was little more than a one man operation. 19:10:27 <raub> noway2: Wow 19:11:05 <bdmc> So far off topic that it is coming back -- I have been trying to remember ( find ) an on-line company that provided legal documents ( templates ) that I was connected with some years ago. When I found e-mail from PlanPlus, I thought that they were it, but they seem more like an advertising complany. ( Ad Agency ) Any ideas? 19:13:01 <noway2> Rocket Lawyer? 19:13:23 <bdmc> Hmm. Never heard of them. I will investigate. Thanks. 19:13:27 <raub> bdmc: https://www.planplusonline.com/ seems to be a CRM company 19:13:52 <bdmc> Yes, that's what I said. ( sort of ) 19:14:47 <bdmc> After my interruption, next? 19:15:10 <raub> Well, we know of our musical talk chairs 19:16:30 <noway2> So are we set with Peter for Feb and Dwain for March or is it still in the air? Otherwise, I guess we can go to the next topic. 19:16:58 <raub> Perter for Feb. Dwain whenever he wantss after that. 19:17:26 <jeoff> ^ 19:17:33 <raub> So, 19:17:37 <raub> #topic 3. Future Topics 19:17:55 <raub> jeoff: how is your topic creating going? 19:18:24 <raub> noway2: could you add your entry to https://steering.trilug.org/wiki/index.php/UpcomingMeetings#Undated? 19:18:50 <raub> I will probably take Donand's out of the list 19:19:54 <raub> Remember, Undated means people who said they were interested but have not commited yet. So, fair game to reach out to them 19:20:01 <noway2> raub: I see the page, I guess we go into the PHP or something in the html directory and update things manually? 19:20:39 <bdmc> As I remember, it is a standard Wiki page. 19:20:55 <raub> It is the same format as wikipedia. If you hit edit, you will see how the other entries look like. So, rinse and repeat 19:20:55 <bdmc> You log in and edit. 19:21:07 <jeoff> raub: haven't made much progress. I can have something for review Thursday probably 19:21:37 <raub> jeoff: Let me know if I or anyone else can help you 19:21:42 <raub> I imagine you too are swamped 19:22:54 <noway2> Ok..gotcha on the edit. Had to create and account. 19:24:32 <raub> Hmmm, the same account you use to login to the wiki should have worked 19:24:58 <noway2> nope, said no user noway2. 19:25:20 <raub> No Way! 19:25:27 <raub> (could not resist) 19:25:28 <noway2> :P 19:26:17 <raub> So need to check why you can't login as noway2 19:26:36 <noway2> I can now, it created an account and let me edit it. page has been updated with new entry 19:27:05 <raub> noway2: Thanks! 19:27:44 <noway2> Hey, learned something new. My pleasure. 19:29:29 <raub> Woohoo! 19:29:58 <raub> I don't want to hold you any longer; do you want to continue or call it a day? 19:30:45 <noway2> I thought of an idea for another possible future topic. Let me expand upon that. I don't have any more update for a new VM but I am going to create a test one in short order. 19:32:22 <noway2> I recently had a personal IT project of getting new inet service into a building that is bridged to another building. One topic that may be of interest gets into bridging networks, coupling routers and switches, creating vlans and routing between them, securing it with fireall, the route / nat / masquerade etc. Its a pretty big topic area that required a lot of learning on my part. Lots of YT on it, but maybe a tutorial would help newbies at it? 19:32:27 <raub> Ok. noway2: do let me know if you get stuck. I work with KVM every day 19:33:20 <raub> noway2: that sounds a rather interesting topic. One of the attendees of last meeting asked about doing stuff in the router like that 19:33:33 <noway2> raub: thanks. It looked pretty straight forward. XML isn't a barrier. I'll start with a scaled down VM, do a few things and then go from there and start building a new one. One question what do we want to call the new pilot? 19:35:15 <noway2> One of the real challenges I ran into was that the wireless bridge should have acted like a wire in a switch port, but DHCP wouldn't work. I tried a quick attempt at it mid week and it should have worked, but for the DHCP. It worked static. Today I see in the bridge, which consists of an access point and subscriber module there is a setting (default is no) to permit a dhcp server down stream of the SM to issue addresses which is what I was trying to 19:35:16 <noway2> do. It became a real head scratcher. 19:35:18 <raub> noway2: Are you going to move everything to new pilot or split it into user and services? 19:36:14 <noway2> raub: I think we can start with a new Pilot, that will at least handle the services like web, email, and LDAP auth and go from there. The big push is to get something modern as the base that we can keep the SSL cert on and secure it. 19:37:01 <raub> What I meant is current pilot handle services like those and user accounts 19:37:25 <raub> s/handle/handleS/ 19:37:58 <noway2> I think the current pilot is so out of date that the image should be retired. It's at risk of compromise as old as it is. 19:40:03 <raub> Iunderstand. My original plan was to split pilot into a server that run services (mail, ldap, web) and one that run the user accounts 19:41:02 <noway2> Gotcha. Sure, Im open to the concept. We can discuss the details. I would like to better understand what you envision as the architecture. Probably want to take that off line? 19:41:32 <raub> Sure, we can talk outside the meeting about that 19:44:07 <noway2> K. Anything else for today? 19:44:25 <raub> I will need to end now to move onto the next meeting 19:44:38 <noway2> Ok. Have a good rest of your day and week. 19:44:47 <raub> You too. 19:44:52 <raub> #endmeeting